What if the sanctuary you’re looking for is one you build with your own two hands?

In this episode, I sit with Michael Dellios, artist, builder, and co-founder of Sip Saunas. From growing up on job sites with his father to becoming a lifelong entrepreneur, Michael shares how following his curiosity led him from advertising to furniture-making to creating spaces that restore health, connection, and presence.

We dive into sauna culture, rituals that quiet the mind, and why creating sacred spaces—whether it’s a chair, a mug, or a sauna—can transform the way we live.

This is a conversation about creativity, resilience, trusting your gut, and building not just structures, but experiences that last for generations.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Who is Michael Dellios? A beautifully imperfect human

02:00 – The peace of building with your hands

04:00 – Growing up with a builder father and learning artistry through design

05:30 – The entrepreneurial journey: from grass-cutting to marketing to music to furniture

07:00 – Feeling unfulfilled and searching for deeper meaning in work

09:00 – The pivot: from psychotherapy dreams to building saunas

11:00 – The first sauna project and the impact it had on community

14:00 – Trusting your gut and finding clarity in silence

18:00 – Building the first SIP sauna and commitment to sustainable materials

22:00 – Saunas as ancestral sanctuaries: slowing down and reconnecting

26:00 – Rituals with Lisa: breathwork, stretching, and sacred boundaries

29:00 – Morning routines that rebaptize the mind daily

31:00 – Handling anxiety, doubt, and the practice of dots forming a line

36:00 – Practical advice for buying or building a sauna

40:00 – The importance of testing saunas before investing

42:00 – Creating sacred spaces beyond the sauna: chairs, mugs, and rituals

44:00 – Vipassana, plant medicine, and new edges in mental fitness

46:00 – The joy in everyday rituals and final reflections

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