Dan sits down with Jim Koch, the legendary founder of Samuel Adams and Boston Beer Company, for a conversation that’s equal parts business masterclass and barroom storytelling. Koch shares how he walked away from a cushy Boston Consulting Group career at 34 to bootstrap a scrappy brewery in a rough Boston neighborhood. They dive into his wild brewing experiments—from 60-proof Utopias to a Bloomingdale’s brown ale made with 40 pounds of beef heart. Koch also explains his Brewing the American Dream program, how he once saved fellow craft brewers during a hop shortage, and why he thinks AI will never replace the “wacky brains” that invent great beer. You’ll laugh, you’ll learn, and you’ll want a cold one by the end.

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