Says Who?

We have replaced God with Google, spirituality with self help, and prayer with scrolling, and we call it progress. Gen Z now spends 7 hours and 43 minutes a day looking at a screen. That is 122 days a year, gone, and the self improvement industry those same people turn to for an answer is worth 46 billion dollars.

Danny Morel built a career in business before walking away from the idea that success alone was enough. He is an author and a spiritual teacher, and the voice behind The Higher Self, and he spends his year between the Dominican Republic and Austin.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith he makes his case: that personal development has become a way of outsourcing your own power, so the guru is always going to let you down and the answer was never in the book or at the event; that feeling stuck in life is not a sign you need another course, it is the predictable result of looking outside yourself for twelve years; that the midlife crisis is not a breakdown but a spiritual awakening arriving late; that the disconnection is by design, because the people selling you the cure are the ones who need you searching; that you can go through anger and let it go in ninety seconds rather than carry it for a lifetime, and most people carry it for a lifetime because nobody ever told them; that your self worth was set by how much love you received, not by what you earn, and that whatever anyone calls self love starts there; that the work the inner child needs cannot be done in your head, which is where everyone tries to do it; and that British children now spend more time indoors than inmates do in prison.

Brogan says she has been doing this dance of self development for twelve years, and what she thinks it actually takes.

We are being told that the way out is one more book, one more ice bath, one more guru.

Says Who?

He explains:

• Why the guru is always going to let you down, and what outsourcing your power costs you
• Why you feel stuck in life after years of personal development, and what the stuckness is actually telling you
• Why a midlife crisis is a spiritual awakening nobody prepared you for
• How to let go of anger in ninety seconds, and why almost nobody is ever taught it
• Where self worth is set, and why no amount of money moves it
• What inner child healing needs that no course can give you, and where people look instead
• How to find your purpose when you have spent a decade asking an algorithm
• What screen time is doing to a generation, and the number nobody adds up

Chapters:

0:00 Living In Fear As A Society
0:58 We Replaced God With Google And Spirituality With Self Help
1:56 Why Your Phone Keeps You Spiritually Disconnected
6:23 The Cost Of City Life, And Feeling Stuck In It
10:44 The Midlife Crisis As A Late Spiritual Awakening
13:13 Money Is Energy, And It Mirrors Your Self Worth
20:02 Self Love, And Where Your Self Worth Was Really Set
23:14 How To Let Go Of Anger In 90 Seconds
29:18 The 46 Billion Dollar Self Development Industry
33:18 Find Your Purpose, With No Destination To Arrive At
37:07 Fear Is Love, Distorted
40:58 Phones, Partners, And Switching Off The News
44:00 Inner Child Healing Is A Process, Not A Fix
45:03 Parenting Tips For Protecting A Child From Your Wounds
46:34 Screen Time, And Children Indoors More Than Inmates
51:42 Define Success And Happiness For Yourself

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2.5 million Brits are on weight loss drugs and another 3.3 million are waiting to start. In America it is more than 30 million people, and children as young as 12 are being prescribed them.

Dr Courtney Raspin is an eating disorder specialist and psychologist, and co-author of The Weight Loss Prescription alongside Dr Max Pemberton. She has spent her career helping people understand their relationship with their bodies, weight and food, which makes her the person to ask what happens when a drug designed for one group of patients reaches everybody else.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith she makes her case: that these drugs are a tool, powerful for the patient who genuinely needs them and dangerous for the one who does not; that most people come off them and put the weight back on four times faster than if they had lost it any other way; that what you lose along the way is muscle, which matters most for the people who can least afford to lose it; that the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry are paid twice over, once for making us unwell and once for the cure; that the drug dims hunger and dims everything else with it, the gym, alcohol, desire, the whole appetite for living; and that nobody is born hating their body, which means somebody taught us.

Brogan tells her own story in this one. She says that if these drugs had existed when she was younger she would have grabbed them with both hands, and what it took instead to get out.

We are being told that weight loss drugs are the safest and most effective way to lose weight.

Says Who?

She explains:

• Why the weight comes back four times faster, and what that does to a body that has already been through it
• What you are losing that is not fat, and why it hits the older population hardest
• Who is actually making the money, and which part of the problem pays nobody
• What she sees happening to girls who are 12, and what she says is being taken from them
• Why the dimming reaches alcohol, exercise and desire as well as food
• What a healthy relationship with food looks like in practice, and where it starts

0:00 The cold open
1:30 Here's the question, Dr Raspin
2:38 You'll gain it back four times faster
4:17 Easier to sell a solution in a syringe
9:29 Nobody is born hating their body
11:29 The lesser of two evils, until it isn't
13:16 You upload a picture and the pen arrives
18:02 Children as young as twelve
21:09 The lights go dim on everything
24:18 The three phases, and the one nobody does
28:27 A real life experiment on the public, in real time
31:04 The pills are coming
33:34 Who benefits, and where there is no money
34:25 How you rebuild a relationship with food
36:39 My son made me heal my relationship with food
42:09 So let's settle it
44:08 After

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2.5 million Brits are on weight loss drugs and another 3.3 million are waiting to start. In America it is more than 30 million people, and children as young as 12 are being prescribed them.

Dr Courtney Raspin is an eating disorder specialist and psychologist, and co-author of The Weight Loss Prescription alongside Dr Max Pemberton. She has spent her career helping people understand their relationship with their bodies, weight and food, which makes her the person to ask what happens when a drug designed for one group of patients reaches everybody else.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith she makes her case: that these drugs are a tool, powerful for the patient who genuinely needs them and dangerous for the one who does not; that most people come off them and put the weight back on four times faster than if they had lost it any other way; that what you lose along the way is muscle, which matters most for the people who can least afford to lose it; that the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry are paid twice over, once for making us unwell and once for the cure; that the drug dims hunger and dims everything else with it, the gym, alcohol, desire, the whole appetite for living; and that nobody is born hating their body, which means somebody taught us.

Brogan tells her own story in this one. She says that if these drugs had existed when she was younger she would have grabbed them with both hands, and what it took instead to get out.

We are being told that weight loss drugs are the safest and most effective way to lose weight.

Says Who?

She explains:

Why the weight comes back four times faster, and what that does to a body that has already been through it
What you are losing that is not fat, and why it hits the older population hardest
Who is actually making the money, and which part of the problem pays nobody
What she sees happening to girls who are 12, and what she says is being taken from them
Why the dimming reaches alcohol, exercise and desire as well as food
What a healthy relationship with food looks like in practice, and where it starts

0:00 The cold open
1:19 Here's the question, Dr Raspin
2:27 You'll gain it back four times faster
4:05 The lesser of two evils, until it isn't
5:57 You upload a picture and the pen arrives
9:06 Easier to sell a solution in a syringe
13:23 Who benefits, and where there is no money
16:50 Nobody is born hating their body
19:49 Retatrutide had a glow up
22:46 Children as young as twelve
25:53 The lights go dim on everything
29:02 My son made me heal my relationship with food
32:59 The three phases, and the one nobody does
37:08 A real life experiment on the public, in real time
39:40 How you rebuild a relationship with food
43:27 So let's settle it
45:27 After

Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly.

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Nobody would put their name to the word safe.

Dr Becky Foljambe is a GP. She gave evidence to a parliamentary committee in March on screens in classrooms, and she arrived at this conversation having spent the year asking one question that nobody has answered: where is the proof that iPads in schools are safe for the children sitting in front of them?

When Brogan's team went looking for the person who said it was, they could not find one. No name, no company, no face. The claim is everywhere and it belongs to nobody.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith she makes her case: that Covid was a grotesque experiment in what happens to children's learning and their wellbeing when they sit inside on screens all day; that there is no evidence of safety and no evidence of efficacy over traditional teaching, and that the academic work points the other way; that devices are now handed out as readily as a water cup in a classroom; that two million children in this country need speech and language input and the therapists on her team have seen caseloads rise 27% in two years; that the average age of first access to porn is 13 and most children never went looking for it, it was fed to them; that A&E consultants are seeing fewer broken arms and more self-harm, acute distress and psychosis, and nobody is asking those children about their screens. And that she has already heard enough, in her own seat, as a doctor.

Then Brogan says something she has not said on this channel before, about the child she was.

We are told screens are helping our children learn better.

Says Who?

She explains:

• What a doctor sees in the surgery that does not show up in any study
• Why she says there is no evidence of safety, and what the evidence there is actually shows
• What screens appear to be doing to children's bodies, their minds and their words
• Why ADHD symptoms may be reversible in children whose lives have been blighted by them
• What happened when Brogan's team tried to find the person who said this was safe

0:00 The cold open
0:56 Screens make our children learn better. Says who?
2:40 What is actually happening inside the classroom
6:59 Covid was a grotesque experiment
12:31 The head in Kent who banned the phones
26:51 A babysitter, an educator, a pacifier
33:08 Retinol on a four year old
33:51 Nobody on the beach actually looks like that
35:51 One in five have had a relationship with a chatbot
38:53 Five hours a day, and the risk climbs
40:58 Most of them did not even go looking for it
42:09 I was one of those vulnerable children
46:06 Take the screens away, then reassess
47:54 ADHD, and the children we think need the devices more
51:32 Is there a sweet spot for screen time?
53:30 In the Night Garden took seven years to make
54:50 Two million children waiting for speech and language
56:49 We don't have any evidence of safety
1:00:11 Settle it then, Dr Becky
1:00:53 They are tools, they are not an oracle

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Dr Becky Foljambe on iPads in schools and screens in classrooms, screen time and ADHD, does social media cause ADHD, screen time for toddlers, and teenage mental health.

Nobody would put their name to the word safe.

Dr Becky Foljambe is a GP. She gave evidence to a parliamentary committee in March on screens in classrooms, and she arrived at this conversation having spent the year asking one question that nobody has answered: where is the proof that iPads in schools are safe for the children sitting in front of them?

When Brogan's team went looking for the person who said it was, they could not find one. No name, no company, no face. The claim is everywhere and it belongs to nobody.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith she makes her case: that Covid was a grotesque experiment in what happens to children's learning and their wellbeing when they sit inside on screens all day; that there is no evidence of safety and no evidence of efficacy over traditional teaching, and that the academic work points the other way; that devices are now handed out as readily as a water cup in a classroom; that two million children in this country need speech and language input and the therapists on her team have seen caseloads rise 27% in two years; that the average age of first access to porn is 13 and most children never went looking for it, it was fed to them; that A&E consultants are seeing fewer broken arms and more self-harm, acute distress and psychosis, and nobody is asking those children about their screens. And that she has already heard enough, in her own seat, as a doctor.

Then Brogan says something she has not said on this channel before, about the child she was.

We are told screens are helping our children learn better.

Says Who?

She explains:

• What a doctor sees in the surgery that does not show up in any study
• Why she says there is no evidence of safety, and what the evidence there is actually shows
• What screens appear to be doing to children's bodies, their minds and their words
• Why ADHD symptoms may be reversible in children whose lives have been blighted by them
• What happened when Brogan's team tried to find the person who said this was safe

0:00 The cold open
0:56 Nobody on the beach actually looks like that
1:35 ChatGPT's number one use is companionship
2:55 One in five have had a relationship with a chatbot
4:38 Mum and dad are in bed, out comes the chatbot
6:05 Five hours a day, and the risk climbs 70%
7:55 Most of them did not even go looking for it
9:48 What she did not see ten years ago
12:51 Is there a sweet spot for screen time?
14:48 In the Night Garden took seven years to make
16:47 Chatbots in the classroom, total and utter disaster
18:08 We don't have any evidence of safety
21:30 Settle it then, Dr Becky
24:53 Emergency admissions up 500% in girls 11 to 15
26:15 Don't blame life, blame your face
28:28 Retinol on a four-year-old
29:15 I was one of those vulnerable children
33:05 Take the screens away, then reassess
35:32 It's a really good question, says who?
39:17 Covid was a grotesque experiment
44:46 The head in Kent who banned the phones
51:02 We could not find anyone to argue the other side
53:13 The law does not arrive until 2027
59:30 They are tools, they are not an oracle

Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly.

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Dr Becky Foljambe on iPads in schools and screens in classrooms, screen time and ADHD, does social media cause ADHD, screen time for toddlers, and teenage mental health.

Brogan Garritt-Smith spent years making a weekly interview podcast called Getting There, asking more than a hundred people how they got where they are. Then she stopped, came off social media and the internet for ten months, and says she went in expecting to come back behind everybody else and found the opposite.

In this episode she lays out why she went and what she is doing now: that she did not stop because she stopped loving conversations but because the question she was asking changed, that she stopped wondering where there was and started asking who decided there was a there in the first place, that 18 to 24 year olds in the UK spend close to 100 days a year online and the average teenager receives 237 notifications a day, that we have moved from using AI as a tool to handing it the parts of life that make us human, and that children are sitting in classrooms preparing for jobs that may not exist by the time they get there. She says she is not making this show to tell anyone what to think.

She explains:

• What she says ten months off the internet did to her, and what she expected instead
• Why she says she stopped Getting There, and the question she says replaced it
• Who she says drew the map to success, and whether she wants to follow it
• What she says we have started handing to AI, and what she thinks it costs us
• Why she says the biggest lesson of her life is that there is not always a right or a wrong

0:00 I thought I would come back behind
3:04 237 notifications a day are not feelings
6:01 I didn't stop, the question changed
9:02 I don't want to fall into my life
12:04 Archaic classrooms for jobs that may not exist
15:01 There isn't always a right or a wrong

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We are back.

Says Who? is the new series, and there was never a question about who should open it. Mo Gawdat was the very first guest on Getting There, so it only felt right that he is the first guest of this chapter too.

Mo was chief business officer of Google X until he resigned in 2017, and he has spent the years since trying to convince heads of state, prime ministers and CEOs that AI needs to be built ethically. He says every one of them nodded and then did nothing, and that by 2024 he had to admit he was doing nothing either, he was only talking, so he built an AI of his own and gave it the mission of helping people find and nurture true love.

In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith he makes his case: that AI will make most people dumber and a few people geniuses, and the difference is whether you debate the answer or ask it for the football scores; that he is borrowing 100 IQ points from his own AIs; that we are already living in the dystopia and he counts 10 to 12 years to recover from it; that the problem was never the machine but a world which decided that anything legal does not have to be ethical, so you fix yourself first and AI will magnify what is fixed. He says direct human connection is what we are built for and the internet is depriving us of it, that it sets our expectations from other people's pretending, and that after promising screens would give us more friends we produced the ultimate loneliness pandemic and are now being sold a non-human companion to cure it.

We have been told AI will make us more intelligent.

Says Who?

He explains:

Why he says AI will make most of us dumber, and what the few are doing differently

Why he says we are already in the dystopia, and how long he thinks it takes to recover

What he says the internet takes from us, and where he says your expectations now come from

Why he says the loneliness we are being sold a cure for is one we built ourselves

What he says love has to do with mathematics, and the mission he says he gave his AI

And a bonus: Mo introduces Emma.Love, and says why he thinks dating apps are built to keep people swiping, and what he is building in their place.

0:00 The cold open

0:58 Here's the question, Mr Gawdat

6:32 Where being human stops and the AI begins

11:31 I pity you, if I may say

16:18 If you've not noticed, we're already in the dystopia

21:45 The fourth inevitable, somewhere between now and 2034

27:13 The toothbrush test Larry Page taught us

32:00 There are people in Lebanon hiding from robots

37:01 At least disapprove of it in your heart

41:55 The corner bookshop economy is about to come back

47:06 The woman who married an AI in China

52:31 Legal does not have to mean ethical

57:34 For Siri to hear its name, it hears everything

1:02:32 The equation, and rain at your ex's wedding

1:07:32 Everyone nodded about ethical AI and did nothing

1:12:34 Finding the one is a mathematical problem

1:18:03 Secure in your attachment until you give up

1:23:03 When was the last time you got her flowers

1:28:08 The first ten minutes were very awkward

1:33:02 A butler on your phone, and models debating

1:38:01 Your future is not decided, so engage

Emma: https://app.emma.love

Emma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emma.love.ai

Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly.

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