Scaling Therapist Podcast: More Income, More Independence, More Impact (Not More Hours)

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  • STP 95 | How to Structure Online Courses That Keep Learners Engaged with Rebecca Cuevas
    How to Structure Online Courses That Keep Learners Engaged

    Guest: Rebecca Cuevas, Author of Course Design Formula: How to Teach Anything to Anyone Online
    Host: James Marland

    Episode Summary:
    In this episode of Scaling Therapy Practice, Rebecca Cuevas shares her expert advice on designing online courses that captivate learners and deliver transformational results. Rebecca discusses common pitfalls, offers actionable strategies, and explains why starting with a clear transformation goal is essential.

    Key Highlights

    00:00 Introduction to Scaling Therapy Practice
    06:45 Starting with Transformation in Mind

    • "How are people going to be different and better as a result of my course?"
    • 09:29 Why Content Shouldn’t Dictate Structure

      • "Your expertise is a treasure chest of gems, but you need a crown to hold them."
      • 14:11 The Power of Role Models in Learning

        • "People need to see inspiring examples of others who’ve succeeded. It normalizes the process."
        • 17:34 Overcoming Resistance to Change

          • "Therapists have an unfair advantage—they’re trained to help people overcome resistance."
          • 21:14 Avoiding Content Overload

            • "Don’t serve learners a whole cow when they just want a steak dinner."
            • 23:01 Designing for Engagement

              • Rebecca introduces "minimum viable learning design," which simplifies course creation while ensuring effective learning.
              • 27:39 Cutting Content the Right Way

                • "It’s not about cutting; it’s about selecting only what leads directly to the transformation."
                • 30:29 Tools for Course Creation

                  • Rebecca shares why she prefers Thinkific for hosting online courses: "It works like Lego pieces—you can create and reuse small elements."
                  • 33:12 Final Thoughts: Done is Better Than Perfect

                    • "There’s no such thing as perfect—and there’s no such thing as done. Just get out there and do it."
                    • Key Quotes from Rebecca Cuevas
                      • "Your course isn’t about you—it’s about the learner and their transformation."
                      • "When you focus on transformation, the structure of your course becomes clear."
                      • "If you’re thinking about watching thousands of hours of your old videos to create a course, don’t. Start fresh with a design plan."
                      • Resources Mentioned
                        • Book: Course Design Formula: How to Teach Anything to Anyone Online
                        • Rebecca’s Website: Learn and Get Smarter
                        • Free Resources & Think Tank: Available at Rebecca’s website: Learn and Get Smarter
                        • For all the links and resources, visit the blog page here: https://courses.coursecreationstudio.com/blog
                        • Make a list of your 2024 wins and post them here: https://courses.coursecreationstudio.com/offers/igKLNcn8/checkout
                        • Do you want to diversify your income in 2025? Visit this page to see if we are a good fit
                        • 35 min
                        • STP 94 | How Systems Help You Scale Your Therapy Practice with Nicole McCance

                           Systems for Scaling Your Therapy Practice

                          In this episode of the Scaling Therapy Practice podcast, host James Marland talks with Nicole McCants, a psychologist-turned-business coach. Nicole shares her journey from running a solo practice for 15 years to successfully scaling a group practice with 55 therapists. She introduces her five-step scaling method, which includes systemizing operations, hiring, attracting clients with digital marketing, converting clients, and retention. Nicole emphasizes the importance of investing in marketing, building trust in a team, and having a coaching or support system. She also discusses the benefits of online courses for therapists looking to reduce hours and increase income. Tune in to learn actionable tips and get inspired by Nicole's story.

                           

                          00:00 Introduction to Scaling Therapy Practice

                          02:03 Interview with Nicole McCants

                          03:13 Nicole's Journey to Business Coaching

                          12:08 Challenges and Mistakes in Scaling

                          12:35 Hiring and Trusting Your Team

                          17:07 Digital Marketing Strategies

                          21:36 Mindset Shifts and Group Coaching

                          23:10 Nicole's Future Plans and Conclusion

                          Visit the blog for all the links and resources: https://courses.coursecreationstudio.com/blog

                          27 min
                        • STP 93 | How an Accountant Helps You Scale Your Therapy Practice

                          In this episode of 'The Scaling Therapy Practice,' host James Marland interviews Julie Herres, owner of Green Oak Accounting and author of 'Profit First for Therapists.' They discuss key strategies for scaling a therapy practice, focusing on the importance of financial sustainability and the critical role of accounting support. Julie highlights that every session should add to the bottom line and emphasizes the interconnectedness of scaling through session count and clinician headcount. The episode also covers the potential pitfalls of hiring without proper financial planning, and Julie provides real-world examples, like the pros and cons of buying a practice building. Listeners gain valuable insights into managing compensation packages, avoiding expensive mistakes, and exploring new revenue streams like online courses.

                          Show Highlights
                          • 00:00 The Financial Pitfalls of Generosity in Practice
                          • 02:11 Introduction to Scaling Therapy Practices
                          • 02:19 Meet Julie Herres: Expert Accountant for Therapists
                          • 02:54 Defining and Approaching Scaling in Therapy Practices
                          • 04:27 Maximizing Space and Resources for Growth
                          • 06:30 Breaking Down the Numbers for Scaling
                          • 09:44 The Role of Accountants in Scaling Your Practice
                          • 13:56 Avoiding Expensive Mistakes in Practice Management
                          • 18:38 Creating Effective Compensation Packages
                          • 21:46 Exploring Online Courses as a Revenue Stream
                          • 25:32 Julie's Resources and Contact Information
                          • 26:41 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
                          • Links and Resources
                            • More Resources from Julie and her team: https://www.greenoakaccounting.com/
                            • Are you ready to scale with a digital product? Take the quiz: https://forms.gozen.io/TMu9Szi9S4i9C7I3h2S3 
                            • Do you want to talk about scaling your practice with an online product? Contact James here: https://tidycal.com/360z043/chat-with-james
                            • Email James with questions: [email protected] 
                            • 28 min
                            • STP 92 | How to Transform Adversity into Purpose: Life Lessons from Henry B. Dotson III

                              Transforming Crisis Into Faith: An Inspirational Journey With Henry B. Dotson III

                              In this episode of 'Scaling Therapy Practice,' James is joined by Henry B. Dotson III, an inspirational speaker, author, and Christian cancer coach. Diagnosed with multiple myeloma in 2015, Henry shares his miraculous healing journey and how he has turned his battle with cancer into a mission to help others. Henry discusses the importance of faith, the power of corporate prayer, and how to transform a crisis into spiritual growth. He elaborates on how his experience led him to write his book and become a Christian cancer coach, offering a unique perspective on using one's faith during trying times. Tune in to hear Henry's powerful message of hope, resilience, and spiritual transformation.

                              Show Highlights

                              • 00:00 The Struggles of Therapists
                              • 01:33 Introducing Henry B. Dotson III
                              • 02:20 Henry's Cancer Diagnosis and Journey
                              • 05:35 Faith and Healing
                              • 07:58 Becoming a Christian Cancer Coach
                              • 16:53 Writing the Book
                              • 19:11 The Power of Prayer and Corporate Support
                              • 19:48 Realizing the Broader Impact
                              • 20:39 Coaching Cancer Patients and Caregivers
                              • 22:52 Spiritual Perspective on Suffering
                              • 31:19 The Hero's Journey in Cancer Coaching
                              • 35:18 Engaging with the Community
                              • 37:07 Contact and Future Plans
                              • Find Course Creation Resources and Support: https://www.coursecreationstudio.com/

                                Find more resources from Henry: https://ojof.life

                                41 min
                              • STP 91 | How to Develop a Winning Mindset for Business Growth with Debra Russell

                                Unleashing Potential: From Adversity to Coaching Mastery with Debra Russell

                                In this inspiring episode of 'Scaling Therapy Practice,' host James Marland explores the transition from traditional therapy to innovative course creation, enhancing freedom, flexibility, and income for therapists. Special guest Debra Russell, an MBA and elite certified business coach, shares her journey from a career in theater and film production to becoming a successful business coach after a prolonged illness. Discover the transformative power of coaching, tips on selecting the right coach, the impact of mindset on productivity, and strategies to overcome imposter syndrome, burnout, and procrastination. Learn how to implement the 80/20 rule, balance personal and professional life, and maintain discipline to achieve business success. Tune in for valuable insights and practical advice to create impactful, productive courses.

                                00:00 Introduction: Breaking Free from Traditional Therapy
                                00:22 Join the Course Creator Hub
                                00:55 Welcome to Scaling Therapy Practice
                                01:11 Meet Debra Russell: From Theater to Coaching
                                02:19 Debra's Journey: Overcoming Adversity
                                04:23 Discovering Coaching and Building a Business
                                09:49 The Importance of Coaching and Finding the Right Fit
                                14:49 Delegation and Team Building for Success
                                16:14 Overcoming Challenges in Course Development
                                16:43 The Power of Public Speaking
                                17:34 Battling Imposter Syndrome
                                19:52 Managing Membership and Burnout
                                22:12 Launching a New Program
                                22:54 Mindset vs. Structure in Productivity
                                28:22 Summarizing Key Takeaways
                                31:02 Where to Find More Information

                                Join the Free Creator Community: https://courses.coursecreationstudio.com/store
                                Turn Procrastination and Overwhelm into Productivity: https://coursecreationstudio--debrarussellcoaching.thrivecart.com/procrastination-overwhelm-productivity/

                                35 min
                              • STP 90 | How to Launch Your Online Course with Confidence

                                Empowering Therapists: Heather Fishbach's Inspiring Journey and Online Course Success

                                Join host James Marland on the Scaling Therapy Practice show as he interviews Heather Fishbach, a holistic health practitioner with over 40 years of experience. Heather shares her extraordinary journey from massage therapy to becoming a Doctor of Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture. In this heartfelt episode, she recounts overcoming a stroke using her holistic techniques and transitioning from in-person therapy to launching successful online courses. Learn about her Course Creator Hub, the challenges of pricing and platform selection, and how affiliate marketing and personal connections have amplified her impact. Heather's inspiring story offers valuable insights into diversifying income through online courses, balancing in-person and online work, and transforming lives through problem-solving and relationship-building.

                                00:00 Breaking Free from the Therapy Chair
                                00:40 Introducing the Course Creator Hub
                                01:16 Welcome to Scaling Therapy Practice
                                01:30 Meet Heather Fishbach
                                02:25 Heather's Journey in Holistic Health
                                07:28 A Life-Changing Stroke
                                12:42 Transitioning to Online Courses
                                16:53 Challenges in Launching Online Courses
                                18:13 Mastering Zoom for Business
                                18:46 Choosing the Right Platform
                                19:59 Balancing Clinic Work and Online Courses
                                20:27 The Importance of Long-Term Planning
                                22:37 Marketing Challenges and Solutions
                                25:27 Building Relationships and Affiliate Marketing
                                33:54 Future Goals and Aspirations
                                35:25 Where to Find More Information

                                Links and Resources

                                More From Heather

                                Heather on Instagram: @Flourishing_Health_Invermere

                                Heather on LinkedIn: Heather Fischbuch

                                Join The Course Creator Hub

                                Looking for support in creating more freedom for yourself using online courses? Join the Free Community! 

                                38 min
                              • STP 89 | How Bob Vetter Turned His Passion for Healing into a Profitable Online Course and Community

                                In this episode of Scaling Therapy Practice, host James Marland engages with cultural anthropologist Bob Vetter to explore innovative pathways for therapists and healers to expand their practices beyond one-on-one sessions. Bob shares his rich background in cultural anthropology, Native American spiritual practices, and curanderismo from Mesoamerica, emphasizing the integration of healing methods into course offerings.

                                Bob discusses his journey from educational travel to offering online courses and workshops, focusing on the concept of the 'wounded healer' and the intersection of personal crises with healing capabilities. The episode illustrates opportunities for therapists to diversify their income and better serve their communities by leveraging group dynamic healing and online platforms.

                                Key highlights include Bob's community-building efforts through Temascal practices and his development of an integrative course model emphasizing collaboration and philanthropy. Listeners are encouraged to embrace their unique gifts and experiences as part of their healing journey.

                                Show Highlights

                                00:00 Introduction: Breaking Free from Traditional Therapy
                                00:46 Join the Course Creator Hub
                                01:24 Meet Bob Vetter: A Journey in Cultural Anthropology
                                02:19 Discovering Native American Healing Practices
                                05:34 From Anthropology to Healing: The Transition
                                07:32 Curanderismo: The Heart-to-Heart Healing
                                10:06 Building a Healing Community
                                13:36 COVID-19: A Turning Point
                                15:16 Developing Online Healing Courses
                                18:32 The Concept of 'Don' and Personal Healing
                                20:58 Challenges and Group Healing Dynamics
                                28:47 Future Plans and Hybrid Course Model
                                29:44 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
                                35:52 Closing Message: Embrace Your Journey

                                Join the Course Creator Hub: https://courses.coursecreationstudio.com/store

                                Check out Bob and his resources: www.bobvetter.com

                                 

                                38 min
                              • STP 88 | How to Easily Create Demand with a Problem Solving Message

                                Mastering the Demand Narrative for Therapists: Building Interest Without Being Salesy

                                 

                                In this episode of the Scaling Therapy Practice, host James Myelin explores the concept of the demand narrative, a framework that helps therapists build interest in their services without appearing salesy or pushy. James shares insights from the book 'Effortless' by Danny Iny and the course 'The Art of Offer Craft.' He breaks down the five steps of the demand narrative: meeting people where they're at, articulating their worldview, sharing deeper insights, explaining the solution, and providing the next action. This episode offers a new perspective on how therapists can frame their solutions in a service-oriented manner, making the process of selling feel more like helping.

                                Show Highlights

                                • 00:00 Welcome to Scaling Therapy Practice
                                • 00:22 Introduction to the Demand Narrative
                                • 00:48 Learning from Experts
                                • 01:34 The Power of Selling as Service
                                • 02:12 Understanding the Demand Narrative Framework
                                • 02:28 Step-by-Step Guide to the Demand Narrative
                                • 03:12 Identifying and Validating Pain Points
                                • 06:33 Articulating the Client's Worldview
                                • 09:34 Sharing Deeper Insights
                                • 11:08 Explaining the Solution
                                • 15:19 Encouraging the Next Step
                                • 18:02 Building Trust and Relationships
                                • 19:04 Conclusion and Contact Information
                                • Effortless: The Counter-Intuitive Business Growth Formula for Coaches, Consultants, Authors, Speakers, and Experts 

                                  The Art of Offer Craft - I can’t find it as a stand-alone course. The company that made the course is Mirasee. 

                                  Online Course Creation Checklist: Here is a 10-item checklist to guide you through the process.

                                  20 min
                                • STP 87 | The Magnet Model: How to Attract Clients by Leading with Your Mission
                                  The Magnet Model: How to Attract Clients by Leading with Your Mission

                                  Empowering Entrepreneurs: Sophie Lechner on Course Creation & LinkedIn Mastery

                                  In this episode of the Scaling Therapy Practice, host James Marland is joined by Sophie Lechner from The Magnet Model. Together, they share insights into creating successful online courses for mission-driven entrepreneurs. Sophie discusses her background, overcoming challenges in business, and finding success using LinkedIn. Listeners will learn about common course creation mistakes, strategies for effective LinkedIn profiles, and Sophie's magnet model for attracting the right clients. Dive into the journey of transforming passion into purpose and learn how to connect better and engage with your audience.

                                  00:00 Welcome to the Scaling Therapy Practice
                                  00:22 Introducing Special Guest Sophie Lechner
                                  01:07 Sophie's Background and Passion for Connections
                                  02:34 The Journey of Course Creation
                                  05:21 Challenges and Lessons in Course Creation
                                  07:45 Pivoting to LinkedIn Coaching
                                  10:48 Building a Business Around LinkedIn
                                  23:22 Developing the Magnet Model
                                  25:26 Current Offerings and Future Plans
                                  30:13 Final Thoughts and Key Drivers

                                  Learn more about the Magnet Model: Https://themgnetmodel.com

                                  33 min
                                • STP 86: Tips for Recording Your Online Course

                                  Pro Tips for Editing Your Course with Descript: A Guide for Therapists

                                  In this episode of the Scaling Therapy Practice, host James Marland shares expert tips for recording and editing online course videos, specifically using the Descript program. He details processes such as preparing for smooth recording, recording in chunks, using transcription features, and adding professional touches like intro music and trimming. The episode aims to make video editing achievable for therapists and other DIYers who want to create high-quality content without needing a production crew.

                                  00:00 Introduction and Course Promotion
                                  00:37 Welcome to Scaling Therapy Practice
                                  00:50 Mastering Course Recording: Pro Tips
                                  02:30 Preparing for a Smooth Recording
                                  03:01 Recording in Chunks for Flawless Edits
                                  04:18 Editing Techniques with Descript
                                  06:38 Advanced Editing Tips and AI Tools
                                  08:18 Adding Professional Touches
                                  09:40 Final Touches: Trimming, Fading, and Uploading
                                  12:21 Summary and Encouragement

                                  Money for Therapists Course

                                  With this course, you will save time and avoid costly mistakes such as:

                                  • Paying your therapists too much or too little
                                  • Unclear payroll structure
                                  • Living without peace of mind
                                  • Descript editing tool for online course creators. 

                                    15 min

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