School of War

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  • General Frank McKenzie on the War in Iran

    General Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie Jr,  USMC (ret.), commanded US Central Command from 2019-2022. Gen. McKenzie led a distinguished 42 year career in the US Marine Corps, commanding at multiple levels and serving on the Joint Staff. In this in-depth conversation, General McKenzie shares his insights on the recent U.S.-Israeli military campaign against Iran, strategic mistakes by Iran, and the prospects for regime change. He gives a full breakdown of Iran's military capabilities, regional dynamics, and possible future scenarios.

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    03:45 Iranian response 

    07:40 Ballistic missiles     

    19:06 Defeating drones

    22:20 Soleimani

    30:31 Iranian miscalculation 

    32:48 War was never inevitable  

    36:18 Outcomes

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    41 min
  • Ep 281: Fred Kagan on the Iran War, Drone Defense, and the Future of the Middle East

    Fred Kagan, senior fellow and director of the Critical Threats Project at the American Enterprise Institute, joins the show to discuss the war, what Ukraine can do to help the Gulf with drone defense, and the future of the Islamic Republic.

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    01:51 Updates

    03:29 Iranian strikes 

    09:15 Munitions crisis    

    14:28 Innovation

    18:45 Isolated and weak

    25:12 Arming the opposition

    30:55 A dangerous game 

    36:22 10/7 

    40:21 Turkey


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    46 min
  • Ep 280: Mike Doran on the Iran War

    Mike Doran, senior fellow and director of the Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East at the Hudson Institute, joins the show to bring us the latest breakdown on the war and how long this may go on.

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    01:52 Where are things going?

    05:45 Rational strikes 

    09:56 A weakened positioned   

    16:33 Lasting change

    20:13 What comes next?

    26:40 Regional war

    30:28 Integration 

    38:30 The Decider 

    47:32 Futures 

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    51 min
  • Ep 279: Mark Dubowitz on U.S.-Israel War with Iran

    Mark Dubowitz, CEO of FDD, joins the show to bring us up to speed on the rapidly developing full-scale conflict between the United States-Israel and Iran.

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    01:19 Iranian leaders targeted 

    04:48 10/7 roots 

    07:39 Ambitious war aims  

    12:41 Scope

    15:59 Regime change

    20:11 Iranian response

    23:42 Playing with fire

    28:13 Partnership


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    33 min
  • Ep 278: Yossi Cohen on The Mossad

    Yossi Cohen, served as the director of the Mossad from 2016 until 2021 and is the author of The Sword of Freedom: Israel, Mossad, and the Secret War. As director, he personally orchestrated some of the Mossad’s most daring operations, such as the seizure of the Iranian nuclear archives—the exposure of which was among the main factors behind the United States’ withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal—and clandestine activity all over the world.

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    01:27 Joining the Mossad

    16:02 Serving behind the lines 

    26:31 Recruitment  

    32:45 HUMINT

    39:50 Deciding to strike

    44:36 Iran 

    49:51 Moral conflicts


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    52 min
  • Ep 277: Behnam Ben Taleblu—Will There Be a War with Iran?

    Behnam Ben Taleblu, Senior Director (Iran Program) and Senior Fellow at FDD, joins the show to talk about the build-up of American military power in the Middle East and what it might mean for Iran and the Iranian regime.

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    02:04 U.S. build-up

    05:46 Timing 

    11:08 “Decisive and different”  

    24:41 Iranian retaliation

    30:03 Targets

    35:25 Ideology of the Supreme Leader 

    41:36 A Trump JCPOA

    45:46 Regime change by air


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    50 min
  • Ep 276: Charlie Laderman on Regime Change in Iran

    Charlie Laderman, associate professor at the University of Florida’s Hamilton School for Classical and Civic Education, joins the show to discuss parallels between Reagan’s policy towards Cold War Poland and the crisis in Iran today.

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    02:45 Comparing Iran and Poland

    05:56 Reagan’s plan 

    10:15 Reheating the Cold War  

    12:26 ’81 coup

    15:53 Sanctions and pressure

    20:19 Constant agitation  

    27:38 End of the Cold War

    34:45 The violence of the Iranian regime 

    37:55 Structural differences   

    44:32 Exiled opposition


    Read the article discussed in the episode - Freedom for Iran: Learning From U.S. Support for Polish Anti-Communists in the 1980s

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    50 min
  • Ep 275: Michael Baumgartner on Marco Rubio’s Speech and the Future of Europe

    Rep. Michael Baumgartner of Washington State’s 5th Congressional District joins the show to give his key takeaways from the Munich Security Conference.

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    01:34 Getting to Munich

    05:22 European attitude  

    14:20 AOC and recalibration  

    17:50 Germany returns

    23:59 Rubio’s speech

    30:23 Ukraine  

    39:22 Iran and a “good” deal


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    44 min
  • Ep 274: Lawrence Freedman on Strategists and Ukraine

    Lawrence Freedman, Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King’s College London and author of On Strategists and Strategy: Collected Essays, 2014-2024, joins the show to talk about a lifetime among strategists, and to give an update on the war in Ukraine.

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    02:34 Essay writing

    07:49 Michael Howard 

    18:42 Colin Gray

    23:06 Timeless aspects of strategy

    26:00 The goal of SDI

    36:40 Tactics  

    41:20 Differences between tactics and strategy

    45:01 Ultimate objectives 

    50:08 Sensible uses of nuclear weapons  

    52:24 Thatcher

    53:59 Harsh winter in Ukraine


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    55 min
  • Ep 273: Matthew Kroenig on China’s Nuclear Test

    Matthew Kroenig, Professor in the Department of Government and the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University, joins the show to talk about the new nuclear age the world is entering.

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    03:27 Secret Chinese testing

    07:35 Seismic monitoring and de-coupling

    11:40 U.S. testing plan 

    15:30 Why might we need more nuclear weapons?

    18:01 New START

    21:23 How many nukes are needed?

    27:04 If deterrence fails 

    30:20 Limits, if any


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    32 min

About School of War

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In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

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