
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


I first met Christena Cleveland across the street from a conference where, later that day, she would speak on issues of race and the long road towards unity among Christians. Her presentation was 3 minutes long.
What I left that conference with was’t just what I heard Dr. Cleveland present in her few minutes.. but I left eyes somewhat newly opened to a system/culture that was comfortable nodding towards that which was non-white or non-male, but far less interested in fully investing. I also left with an awareness of my complicity.
Since then, I’ve paid attention to Dr. Clevelands work as an author, blogger speaker and culture creator. I’ve looked forward to this interview for quite a while..
Which brings me to this somewhat unfortunate and somewhat comical production note:
My 2 year old has developed an interest in all my electronics and had her way with the input controls just a few moments before I go Dr. Cleveland on the line. You’ll year my voice peak off and on throughout the conversation.
That said.. Dr. Clevelands voice is clear as day and full of wisdom for this moment.
Check it out.
Music for this episode is by Podington Bear.
Read Justin's Substack
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order Sacred Strides
JustinMcRoberts.com
Support this podcast
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make itHearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble
By Justin McRoberts4.9
6161 ratings
I first met Christena Cleveland across the street from a conference where, later that day, she would speak on issues of race and the long road towards unity among Christians. Her presentation was 3 minutes long.
What I left that conference with was’t just what I heard Dr. Cleveland present in her few minutes.. but I left eyes somewhat newly opened to a system/culture that was comfortable nodding towards that which was non-white or non-male, but far less interested in fully investing. I also left with an awareness of my complicity.
Since then, I’ve paid attention to Dr. Clevelands work as an author, blogger speaker and culture creator. I’ve looked forward to this interview for quite a while..
Which brings me to this somewhat unfortunate and somewhat comical production note:
My 2 year old has developed an interest in all my electronics and had her way with the input controls just a few moments before I go Dr. Cleveland on the line. You’ll year my voice peak off and on throughout the conversation.
That said.. Dr. Clevelands voice is clear as day and full of wisdom for this moment.
Check it out.
Music for this episode is by Podington Bear.
Read Justin's Substack
Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott Erickson
Coaching with Justin
Order In Rest - New Book of Poems
Order Sacred Strides
JustinMcRoberts.com
Support this podcast
NEW Single - Let Go
NEW Music - Sliver of Hope
NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird
The Book - It Is What You Make itHearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble

1,092 Listeners

4,408 Listeners

6,676 Listeners

3,284 Listeners

3,200 Listeners

5,445 Listeners

1,124 Listeners

527 Listeners

2,113 Listeners

57,911 Listeners

3,328 Listeners

215 Listeners

539 Listeners

658 Listeners

10,068 Listeners