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Today Denise and Ellen welcome Michelle Martinez, who is not only a Certified Wedding Consultant, with more than 20 years in the wedding and events industry, but also the creator and host of the world's mosts popular wedding podcast - The Big Wedding Planning Podcast. With 300 episodes under her belt and nearly three million downloads, she's been around the block a few times!

Ellen's daughter is getting married so Ellen has some inside scoop on some of her issues. Michelle helps us see the whole picture, what are role is of parents - of the bride or the groom and underscores her three missions:

• Inclusivity is key
• Perfection is a myth
• Wedding planning for all

It seems to all come back to what Julie Dolan told us in our grand-parenting episode about being the loving and loyal servant.

We talk about:

• The role of the bride and groom's family
• How the bride's family can help the groom's family feel more comfortable
• The role of the newly engaged couple
• Guest lists
• Finances 
• and more

If you are in the stages of wedding planning and don't have the budget for a big time wedding planner, Michelle now offers a masterclass on her website.  A tiny percent of what a full wedding planner would cost.  Check it out her Master Class offer here.

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