Howard Levine and Camilo Varela are Managing Partners and Co-Founders of Second Horizon Capital, a company focused on revitalizing underinvested retail properties into vibrant community destinations. They discuss their approach to impact investment, the origins of Second Horizon Capital, and their growing portfolio of malls and lifestyle centers across the United States, including Chicago Ridge Mall and Stony Point Fashion Park. They share insights on community engagement, sustainability initiatives, and the challenges and rewards of transforming retail centers. The conversation also covers their investment philosophy, the importance of local partnerships, and the future of retail real estate.

James Cook is the Director of Retail Research in the Americas for JLL.

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