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Described as "Dead Poet's Society meets Clueless", The Hairy Bird is a 1998 film written and directed by Sarah Kernochan. Inspired by her time as a student at the Connecticut girls' boarding school Rosemary Hall in the 1960s, the film follows new student Odette Sinclair (Gaby Hoffman) as she meets the ICONIQUE headmistress Miss McVane (Lynn Redgrave) and falls in with a new clique led by Kirsten Dunst's Verena Von Stefan. No sooner is Odie welcomed in than their friend Tweetie (my girl Heather Matarazzo) overhears the school board's plans to merge Miss Godard's into a co-ed school with the nearby St Ambrose Academy.  

This sets the films antics into motion, pits the boy crazy Tweetie and Tinka, an aspiring "actress-folk singer-slut", against Verena and brainiac Momo (our girl Merritt Wever) and eventually leads Odie to stage a sit-in to demand the girls at Miss Godard's have a voice in the future of their school.

Brodie is joined by her bff Anton De Ionno to discuss the sad saga behind this film's release, its legacy in our lives and many spiritual connections to Gilmore Girls.

See Alsos

• Haley Mlotek's piece in Metrograph
• Interview with Sarah Kernochan in Business Insider + in Flashback Films
• 26 years before The Holdovers, Disney buried the best boarding school comedy
• Peter Biskind’s 2004 book Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent Film

Anton recommends

• An Unmarried Woman
• Love Is a Drag: For Adult Listeners Only
• dry-humping

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On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are both prepping for some time away, plus Jinxy recaps the Melbourne premiere of Beetlejuice and BL describes a bizarro time seeing Blink Twice at Kino's "Cinema 8".

On the docket this week are chats about two very brilliant and very different films: Coralie Fargeat's The Substance (skip from 32:37 to 53:43 if you don't want spoilers) and Jane Schoenbrun's I Saw the TV Glow. We chat about how it's been a big year for chicks shooting up, finding a bit of flesh to poke an earring in, listening to what a film is saying – even if it's not speaking to you – and being simply a lesbian. Also: What was your Buffy journey and What Was The Name of Your High School Band? Is South Yarra the SoHo of Melbourne? Is asking that question totally insufferable? All that and more, this week on See Also!

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See Alsos

• Emily Gould's profile on Chloe Sevigny for The Cut
• Miranda July answers All Fours questions in Emily Sundberg's newsletter Feed Me
• The Substance Is Disgusting, Twisted, and Instantly Divisive
• For This Director, There’s No Such Thing as Too Much Blood
• Kelli Weston's The Substance review in Sight & Sound
• Demi Moore for Interview Magazine
• Kate's review of I Saw The TV Glow in The Monthly

Also Alsos

• The Beautiful Bunch
• Le Creuset Stoneware butter dish
• Reissue of Horizon Unlimited (1970) by the Lijadu Sisters
• Season Chicken
• Small Feelings: The Films of Cassavetes
• Romance by Fontaines D.C.

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It's a momentous day. Months after brazenly begging any listeners with the keys to a boutique hotel to invite us to stay, we're doing it. We're podding from a suite. Specifically, a suite at the United Places Hotel Botanic Gardens. They invited us to stay and we've spent the weekend seeing the sights of South Yarra, sipping martinis and eating the entirety of the ocean. We couldn't be more smug and insufferable thank you very much!! You can be equally annoying when you post up in this glamorous hotel – book using the code SEEALSO for 15% off your stay!

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• See Also Southside: the google map

Also Alsos

• Listen to Olivia Laing's conversation with Sophie Cunningham about their new book, The Garden Against Time: In Search of a Common Paradise, as you walk through the Royal Botanic Gardens
• Slow Dance by Rainbow Rowell
• Grief is for People by Sloane Crosley
• Topdog/Underdog on at MTC til 21 September
• Astor Theatre: 45th anniversary of the Muppet Movie on Sunday 8 September
• Tower 28 SOS LipSoftie Lip Rescue treatment

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On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are collecting themselves post-MIFF. Jinxy is a little snail, sans memoir, and BL is similarly on the hunt for a new shell to call home.

They debrief on the movies they loved, the people they met and the iconic nistas of fashion they've been interviewing. Jinxy hosted an on-stage talk with Hollywood costume designer Deborah L. Scott and BL interviewed Charli XCX for the cover of Vogue Australia's September issue.

Then we discuss the recent investigation into the troubling "boys' club" at Swillhouse and the restaurant group's history of perpetuating harmful workplace practices, as reported in the Sydney Morning Herald. If this isn't something you're in a place to listen to, please skip ahead from 24:35 to 43:55.

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• SMH/Good Food's investigation: Sex, sleaze and hospitality
• Women in hospitality

Also Alsos

• Supernormal's Piñata cocktail
• Punter's Club – come see BL DJ on Sep 6 at 10pm!
• HAA bath salts from CIBI
• Violette FR Yeux Paint Twinkling in Scarabee d'Or
• Sigrid Nunez's book What Are You Going Through from 2020
• Not All Diamonds and Rosé by Dave Quinn, audiobook read by Amy Phillips

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In this first Q&A episode, Kate and Brodie answer pressing (and mildly stressful) questions about iconic looks and beloved books, where you should move, how they met, where to dine solo, how to be chic at the footy, and what breakfast to order in Melbourne. Bisou! Mwah!

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It's the Trap by M Night Shyamalan podcast! Kate and Brodie have been to see English, a new play at MTC, a new RHONY teaser is out featuring the real-life gay friend of Jenna Lyons, Jinxy is having her "ball dropping down a la All Fours by Miranda July" birthday and is saving the article about Katherine Hepburn being an awful neighbour, she's celebrating in a very Kate Culture way – watching short films about architecture at a Robin Boyd-designed house, let us podcast from SUR LA MER in St Kilda!!!! Both of us are doom-prepping for a fortnight of film festival madness in the kitchen. Neither of us will bring a thermos of soup into the cinema but only one of us is making MUFF SOUP. BL has started following a new TikTok chef who's been cooking in Liz Lange's Hamptons house aka THE GREY GARDENS HOUSE. The kid from Presumed Innocent looks like the girl from Hereditary.

Then we recollect our night watching the first session of M Night Shyamalan's Trap at Thornbury Picture House. Incredible, amazing, loved every second. We won't spoil the end, but we do dig into the plot points, most of which are the setup and concept of the story, okay? We each shout out our Hayley Mills faves: Kate's is Whistle Down the Wind and Brodie's is The Parent Trap IV: Hawaiian Honeymoon. All the greats are here: Alison Pill! Kid Cudi! New nepo baby pop star (?) Saleka Shyamalan! And of course: Millennial Gay Root Josh Hartnett.

Listen to The Saturday Quiz podcast this week to hear us not know about geography or actors (oops!!). The next two weeks we'll only be posting for the Hogg Hive on Patreon.

Also: Alsos!

Also Alsos

The Male Gays – Be Kind 7"

Follow @cecilia.tolone on socials / find recipes on ceciliatolone.com

Linda Marigliano's Tough Love podcast episode: Naomi Shimada: Anything Can Happen

Madame Web is streaming on Binge now (praise be)

Follow @nyplpicturecollection on Instagram

Ella Baxter's new novel Woo Woo

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On this week's See Also, Brodie has a correction and a retraction and the Kate Jinx media blitz continues. BL's been hosting an elaborate Christmas in July (any excuse for ham) and Kate's been going Locked Bag Aunty mode.

They coincidentally watched Twister (singular) at the same time and NEED to podcast live from Hoyts D-BOX. Brodie reports back from the long night at the movies watching Kinds of Kindness and they go deep on the tradwife expose setting TikTok alight.

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• Kate's feature on her style in SMH
• … and her reviews of I Saw the TV Glow and Under the Bridge in the Monthly
• Shaad D'Souza on How Long Gone
• Meet the queen of the ‘trad wives’ (and her eight children)

Also Alsos

• Cremate London incense
• Presumed Innocent
• Reissue of "Souvenirs" by Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam Guèbrou
• Hagen's Organics
• Coriander Seed Body Cleanser by Aesop
• Soft Services Carea Cream Daily Softening Lotion

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On this week's See Also, Kate's been eating at a southside fave and Brodie gives a debrief of a newly refurb'ed pub in the north. Kate saw whales and got split up on a flight – who's the heir and who's the spare? And they discuss Shannen Doherty's list of people banned from her funeral, having enemies and caring what people think.

Then, they trade mini-reviews of some things they've watched recently: Longlegs, Lady in the Lake, A Quiet Place Day One, Renegade Nell, Maxxxine, The Fall Guy, Shutter Island, and that clip of Lisa Kudrow saying it's time for The Comeback to come back. Valerie Cherish on Hot Ones and How Long Gone when??

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Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• Broadsheet's Creative Couples article
• Fashion Journal "How I Got Here: Melbourne International Film Festival’s programmer on the value of a non-linear career path"

Also Alsos

• Joni & Co
• Builders Arms' Tuesday chicken night
• Rebel Girl by Kathleen Hanna
• Pleasant State cleaning products
• Food & Film at MIFF
• Stella Donnelly is doing a residency on Wednesday nights in August at Merri Creek Tavern

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On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie pay tribute to two queens of our screens, Shannen Doherty and Shelley Duvall, before digging in to The Bear's frustrating third season. Then! The long-awaited debrief on this year's MIFF program. BL shares what made her shortlist, Jinxy adds to it with more reccs from her many months of viewing. Find some lists on our Instagram @seealsopodcast, hop in the DMs to request a bespoke recc from Kate, or join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for a complete list of every film we mention in this ep. (Not enough space here to list them all, sorry!)

Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

• Explore the two strands Jinxy curated in this year's program: Yvonne Rainer: Autobiographical Fictions and Iranian New Wave: 1962 – 79
• For Grace – doc on Ever chef Curtis Duffy opening his previous restaurant, Grace
• Lee Tran Lam's piece on the Australian cookbooks in The Bear
• BL is hosting the Consuming Culture at MIFF again this year – grab a ticket!
• Explore the whole MIFF Talks program Jinxy pulled together
• FOTP Alexei is hosting trivia nights at the festival this year too

Also Alsos

• Pidapipo's seasonal hot chocolate
• Friday Afternoon Club: A Family Memoir by Griffin Dunne
• New Kim Deal song, Coast, recorded by the late Steve Albini.
• Girlboss episode of The Dilemma podcast, by Gina Rushton
• Fantasmas on Binge in Australia, a perfect show from Julio Torres (also come see Problemista at MIFF)
• I’m Tired of Using An App For Everything by Mark Hill on Slate

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This week, Kate and Brodie are in the realms of magic. Namely, ordering magic coffees, watching Practical Magic and experiencing The Power of Three. We do a quick check-in on The Bear season 3 – full chat coming next week! – and then report back on two recent watches: Under The Bridge (excellent!) and Industry (not!).

Then we duck behind the paywall to step out how we're going on our Q3 goals and aspirations. Dream big, baby!

See Also

• Cargo Crew sent us their aprons and Yes Chef hats – thank you!
• Buy a pillow head scarf like Syd wore in season 2 from Etsy seller AnotherHatBag

Also Alsos

Jinxy's Winter Also playlist is on Spotify and Apple Music

Serendib all you can eat Sri Lankan buffet

Kabocha French Lentil Soup recipe

Open House Melbourne tours of Wildwood House by Robin Boyd + the Cairo flats

Evenings with Eric Rohmer at Golden Age

Save the date for Brodie's A Plus market stall – 4 August at Coburg Town Hall 10am-3pm

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