In this episode, I talk with Ephraim Lerner and Shane Leaning, the co-authors of Change Starts Here. Our conversation focuses on human-centered ways to think about organizational change in education. Ephraim and Shane share how they’ve adapted the double diamond model into an eight-stage framework: Connect, Discover, Define, Align, Develop, Learn, Deliver, and Sustain. We spend time looking at how each stage works in practice, with questions and strategies that can guide meaningful conversations. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of psychological safety, curiosity, collaboration, and emotional engagement, as well as the value of learning from diverse perspectives. Thank you for being a part of our community.<ul><li>Feedback: We love hearing from you! Leave us a rating or comment to let us know what you think.</li><li>Stay Connected: Follow our podcast for more episodes packed with insights and inspiration.</li></ul> Learn more about the TLC 2025:www.tlc-conference.com Learn more about the Coaching Accreditation Program:<a href='https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/'>https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/</a>

In this episode, I talk with Ephraim Lerner and Shane Leaning, the co-authors of Change Starts Here. Our conversation focuses on human-centered ways to think about organizational change in education. Ephraim and Shane share how they’ve adapted the double diamond model into an eight-stage framework: Connect, Discover, Define, Align, Develop, Learn, Deliver, and Sustain. We spend time looking at how each stage works in practice, with questions and strategies that can guide meaningful conversations. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of psychological safety, curiosity, collaboration, and emotional engagement, as well as the value of learning from diverse perspectives. Thank you for being a part of our community.Feedback: We love hearing from you! Leave us a rating or comment to let us know what you think.Stay Connected: Follow our podcast for more episodes packed with insights and inspiration. Learn more about the TLC 2025: www.tlc-conference.com Learn more about the Coaching Accreditation Program: https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/

In this episode, I talk with Ephraim Lerner and Shane Leaning, the co-authors of Change Starts Here. Our conversation focuses on human-centered ways to think about organizational change in education. Ephraim and Shane share how they’ve adapted the double diamond model into an eight-stage framework: Connect, Discover, Define, Align, Develop, Learn, Deliver, and Sustain. We spend time looking at how each stage works in practice, with questions and strategies that can guide meaningful conversations. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of psychological safety, curiosity, collaboration, and emotional engagement, as well as the value of learning from diverse perspectives. Thank you for being a part of our community.<ul><li>Feedback: We love hearing from you! Leave us a rating or comment to let us know what you think.</li><li>Stay Connected: Follow our podcast for more episodes packed with insights and inspiration.</li></ul> Learn more about the TLC 2025:www.tlc-conference.com Learn more about the Coaching Accreditation Program:<a href="https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instructionalcoaching.com/coaching-accreditation-program/</a>

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Jim Knight is the founder of The Instructional Coaching Group, a professional development provider dedicated to offering PD for coaches, teachers, and leaders based on a partnership approach that creates better learning environments for all students. As a research associate at the University of Kansas Center for Research on Learning Jim has spent 25 years studying professional learning and instructional coaching. He earned his PhD in Education from the University of Kansas and has won several university teaching, innovation, and service awards. The pioneering work Jim and his colleagues have conducted has led to many innovations that are now central to professional development in schools. Jim wrote the first major article about instructional coaching for the Journal of Staff Development, and his book Instructional Coaching (2007) offered the first extended description of instructional coaching. Jim has written several books in addition to those described above, including the bestsellers Unmistakable Impact (2011), High-Impact Instruction (2013), Focus on Teaching (2014), Better Conversations (2015), The Impact Cycle (2018), and The Definitive Guide to Instructional Coaching (2021). He has also authored articles featured in Educational Leadership, The Journal of Staff Development, Principal Leadership, The School Administrator, and Kappan.

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Jim Knight is the founder of The Instructional Coaching Group, a professional development provider dedicated to offering PD for coaches, teachers, and leaders based on a partnership approach that creates better learning environments for all students. As a research associate at the University of Kansas Center for Research on Learning Jim has spent 25 years studying professional learning and instructional coaching. He earned his PhD in Education from the University of Kansas and has won several university teaching, innovation, and service awards. The pioneering work Jim and his colleagues have conducted has led to many innovations that are now central to professional development in schools. Jim wrote the first major article about instructional coaching for the Journal of Staff Development, and his book Instructional Coaching (2007) offered the first extended description of instructional coaching. Jim has written several books in addition to those described above, including the bestsellers Unmistakable Impact (2011), High-Impact Instruction (2013), Focus on Teaching (2014), Better Conversations (2015), The Impact Cycle (2018), and The Definitive Guide to Instructional Coaching (2021). He has also authored articles featured in Educational Leadership, The Journal of Staff Development, Principal Leadership, The School Administrator, and Kappan.

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