Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

She Exposed Epstein, and Shares MAGA’s Anger

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Julie K. Brown thinks Jeffrey Epstein didn’t act alone. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Brown, the investigative reporter whose work ultimately led to Epstein’s re-arrest, about what the government could release that it hasn’t and how the story is bigger than Epstein.

  • 2:32 - Brown's initial interest in the Epstein case
  • 5:26 - Discovering Epstein's crimes and the plea deal
  • 13:13 - Epstein's victims and the impact of Brown's reporting
  • 18:20 - Epstein's wealth and connections
  • 25:20 - Epstein's social circles
  • 35:01 - Certainty and unsolved mysteries
  • 45:25 - The role of government in the case
  • 51:04 - Trump and the political fallout

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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