Can you be engaged for too long? Or is ‘engaged’ a full relationship stage of its own now, with no destination in mind? Ask Haylie Duff.

Is there a 'cluck' gap between Gen Z women and Gen Z men? And if so, do young men want a baby like a kid wants a puppy? 

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Also, a woman opened her friend’s fridge and was so upset by what she found, she ended the friendship. Is it okay to expect your friends to abstain from the same things? 

Plus, a burning question for Clare Stephens: Did she and Jessie ever just think it would be easier to marry twins. Bombshells ahead. 

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And, Recommendations:

• Em: The Testaments on Disney+, the Handmaid's Tale sequel.
• Holly: This Is A Gardening Show on Netflix and hosted by Zach Galifianakis.
• Clare: Striped shirt "dupes" from Cotton On.
• Emily (Bonus): The Mamamia podcast But Are You Happy? — specifically the episode on boundaries.

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• Listen to But Are You Happy: Here's When Setting A Boundary Is Actually Necessary
• Listen to our latest episode: The Real Reason You Resent Your Friends
• Listen: The One Minute Of Live TV That Undid A Noughties Icon
• Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: An Engagement, An Affair & A Royal F-You
• Listen: The Family Ritual That Has Us Divided
• Listen: The Most Honest Dating Questionnaire We've Ever Seen
• Listen: Is WFH Bad For Women?
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• '6 things that happened to me on weight loss medication.'
• The one comment that confirms Hilary Duff is in a 'secret' feud with her sister, Haylie.
• 'I just got engaged. Here are 8 surprising things that I didn't know would happen.'
• 'She made a move on my date.' 10 women on the friendship betrayals they'll never recover from.

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