We had regrettable hot takes on cleaning exercise equipment before this great episode! The main training topic was on a new study highlighting the important of the lactate shuttle. We zoom out to discuss the implications for aerobic training. We also talked about mysteries around fatigue resistance! In the lab, you can’t predict fatigue resistance from fresh values (or from metabolic values during training). What are the implications? Our framework of “carb ox after fat ox” can provide some options.Other topics: Megan’s return to racing, a formal apology, a new study on hand and arm cooling, exercise science gone wrong in the NFL, bone health and carbs, and questions on the 6-12-18-24 challenge, wedding speeches, fatigue miles in the context of zone compression theory, and improving bike power for runners.We love you all! HUZZAH!Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="thefeed.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="patreon.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">patreon.com/swap</a>

We had regrettable hot takes on cleaning exercise equipment before this great episode! The main training topic was on a new study highlighting the important of the lactate shuttle. We zoom out to discuss the implications for aerobic training. We also talked about mysteries around fatigue resistance! In the lab, you can’t predict fatigue resistance from fresh values (or from metabolic values during training). What are the implications? Our framework of “carb ox after fat ox” can provide some options. Other topics: Megan’s return to racing, a formal apology, a new study on hand and arm cooling, exercise science gone wrong in the NFL, bone health and carbs, and questions on the 6-12-18-24 challenge, wedding speeches, fatigue miles in the context of zone compression theory, and improving bike power for runners. We love you all! HUZZAH! Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com/swap Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

We had regrettable hot takes on cleaning exercise equipment before this great episode! The main training topic was on a new study highlighting the important of the lactate shuttle. We zoom out to discuss the implications for aerobic training.&nbsp;We also talked about mysteries around fatigue resistance! In the lab, you can’t predict fatigue resistance from fresh values (or from metabolic values during training). What are the implications? Our framework of “carb ox after fat ox” can provide some options.Other topics: Megan’s return to racing, a formal apology, a new study on hand and arm cooling, exercise science gone wrong in the NFL, bone health and carbs, and questions on the 6-12-18-24 challenge, wedding speeches, fatigue miles in the context of zone compression theory, and improving bike power for runners.We love you all! HUZZAH!Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="thefeed.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="patreon.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>

328. Mysteries of Fatigue Resistance, New Science on the Lactate Shuttle, Carbs and Bone Health, and Fatigue Miles

We grunted our way through the day before this great episode! The main training topic was a new study on the dose-response curve for intensity, finding that only 11 minutes led to 80% of the benefits. We zoom out to talk about how training theory can shift away from the goal of accumulation of intensity. That study connected to another finding that just 12 minutes of vigorous-intensity activity correlated with major longevity improvements. There are a million confounders for both, but there may be similar mechanisms at play. Other topics: what happens when you throw gels on the floor, the best headphones, grunting as a performance enhancer, Run Rabbit Run’s $100,000 prize purse, active heat training, Keely Hodgkinson’s speedsuit, Sydney Sweeney’s ad, a Hyrox follow-up, David’s dumb take of the week, “one more rep” workouts, maladaptations from overtraining, a new study finding that cocoa may enhance fatigue resistance, and questions on start line etiquette, opening gels, breakups, running economy v. power, watch bands, tapers, and lots more.We love you all! HUZZAH!-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">patreon.com/swap</a>

We grunted our way through the day before this great episode! The main training topic was a new study on the dose-response curve for intensity, finding that only 11 minutes led to 80% of the benefits. We zoom out to talk about how training theory can shift away from the goal of accumulation of intensity. That study connected to another finding that just 12 minutes of vigorous-intensity activity correlated with major longevity improvements. There are a million confounders for both, but there may be similar mechanisms at play. Other topics: what happens when you throw gels on the floor, the best headphones, grunting as a performance enhancer, Run Rabbit Run’s $100,000 prize purse, active heat training, Keely Hodgkinson’s speedsuit, Sydney Sweeney’s ad, a Hyrox follow-up, David’s dumb take of the week, “one more rep” workouts, maladaptations from overtraining, a new study finding that cocoa may enhance fatigue resistance, and questions on start line etiquette, opening gels, breakups, running economy v. power, watch bands, tapers, and lots more. We love you all! HUZZAH! -David and Megan Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com/swap Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

We grunted our way through the day before this great episode! The main training topic was a new study on the dose-response curve for intensity, finding that only 11 minutes led to 80% of the benefits. We zoom out to talk about how training theory can shift away from the goal of accumulation of intensity.&nbsp;That study connected to another finding that just 12 minutes of vigorous-intensity activity correlated with major longevity improvements. There are a million confounders for both, but there may be similar mechanisms at play.&nbsp;Other topics: what happens when you throw gels on the floor, the best headphones, grunting as a performance enhancer, Run Rabbit Run’s $100,000 prize purse, active heat training, Keely Hodgkinson’s speedsuit, Sydney Sweeney’s ad, a Hyrox follow-up, David’s dumb take of the week, “one more rep” workouts, maladaptations from overtraining, a new study finding that cocoa may enhance fatigue resistance, and questions on start line etiquette, opening gels, breakups, running economy v. power, watch bands, tapers, and lots more.We love you all! HUZZAH!-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>

329. Why You May Not Need Much Intensity, Running Economy v. Power, The Biggest Prize Purse in Trail Running, and Training and Longevity!

We brought some big foot energy to this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of “zone compression,” where harder efforts get sustainable for longer durations in weird and wild ways. Our theory: zone compression techniques are driving lots of training theory. We break it all down!Before that, the episode starts with David’s news that he’s going to get surgery on his foot. We discuss the process to get here and what comes next. Answer: jokes come next. Life!And this one had so many fun topics! Other topics: creatine update, a study on stretching and blood pressure, why the Tour de France Femmes absolutely ruled, a strange study on blueberries and performance, a paper on negative social ties, the Sierre Zinal mascot, a hamster that is taking over Strava, side short pees, a question on PEDs, what to wear in the home sauna, regrets, and so much more.So much love for you all! Thank you for everything over the years. We got this. Maybe. Actually, yes. Most likely!Squirting it right out the back,-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com</a> (code "SWAP")Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">patreon.com/swap</a>

We brought some big foot energy to this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of “zone compression,” where harder efforts get sustainable for longer durations in weird and wild ways. Our theory: zone compression techniques are driving lots of training theory. We break it all down! Before that, the episode starts with David’s news that he’s going to get surgery on his foot. We discuss the process to get here and what comes next. Answer: jokes come next. Life! And this one had so many fun topics! Other topics: creatine update, a study on stretching and blood pressure, why the Tour de France Femmes absolutely ruled, a strange study on blueberries and performance, a paper on negative social ties, the Sierre Zinal mascot, a hamster that is taking over Strava, side short pees, a question on PEDs, what to wear in the home sauna, regrets, and so much more. So much love for you all! Thank you for everything over the years. We got this. Maybe. Actually, yes. Most likely! Squirting it right out the back, -David and Megan Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com (code "SWAP") Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

We brought some big foot energy to this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of “zone compression,” where harder efforts get sustainable for longer durations in weird and wild ways. Our theory: zone compression techniques are driving lots of training theory. We break it all down!Before that, the episode starts with David’s news that he’s going to get surgery on his foot. We discuss the process to get here and what comes next. Answer: jokes come next. Life!And this one had so many fun topics! Other topics: creatine update, a study on stretching and blood pressure, why the Tour de France Femmes absolutely ruled, a strange study on blueberries and performance, a paper on negative social ties, the Sierre Zinal mascot, a hamster that is taking over Strava, side short pees, a question on PEDs, what to wear in the home sauna, regrets, and so much more.So much love for you all! Thank you for everything over the years. We got this. Maybe. Actually, yes. Most likely!Squirting it right out the back,-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com</a> (code "SWAP")Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>

323. The Theory of Zone Compression, Surgery (Oh No), What Comes Next, and The New Big Supplement!

We had deep thoughts on thirst traps before this great episode! There were three main training topics that all fit together. First, we connected fatigue resistance to fueling and the central nervous system, using David’s long bike past his endurance limits as some evidence.Next was a new study on aerobic v. anaerobic energy contribution, finding that the 50/50 turn-point was at just 78.6 seconds. This has massive implications for how we think about training, and why athletes should rarely be pushing as hard as they can.Then we tied it all together with some updated thoughts on uphill treadmill running from new data. It was an upscale buffet of training talk! Like a physiological Golden Corral! Other topics: Rachael Rudel’s US Championship (which happened right before we recorded), how her training works, a new segment called Comments Corner, why you need to be careful about the last song you hear before racing, wisdom on performance from Roger Federer, Curt Cignetti’s unique coaching approach, toxic running groups/friends, cycling on and off creatine, weekly mileage as a proxy for growth (or not), the perils of taking off-brand probiotics, the interaction of carbs and taper theory, and the connection between our AI discussions and doping.We love you all! HUZZAH!-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>

We had deep thoughts on thirst traps before this great episode! There were three main training topics that all fit together. First, we connected fatigue resistance to fueling and the central nervous system, using David’s long bike past his endurance limits as some evidence. Next was a new study on aerobic v. anaerobic energy contribution, finding that the 50/50 turn-point was at just 78.6 seconds. This has massive implications for how we think about training, and why athletes should rarely be pushing as hard as they can. Then we tied it all together with some updated thoughts on uphill treadmill running from new data. It was an upscale buffet of training talk! Like a physiological Golden Corral! Other topics: Rachael Rudel’s US Championship (which happened right before we recorded), how her training works, a new segment called Comments Corner, why you need to be careful about the last song you hear before racing, wisdom on performance from Roger Federer, Curt Cignetti’s unique coaching approach, toxic running groups/friends, cycling on and off creatine, weekly mileage as a proxy for growth (or not), the perils of taking off-brand probiotics, the interaction of carbs and taper theory, and the connection between our AI discussions and doping. We love you all! HUZZAH! -David and Megan Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com/swap Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

We had deep thoughts on thirst traps before this great episode! There were three main training topics that all fit together. First, we connected fatigue resistance to fueling and the central nervous system, using David’s long bike past his endurance limits as some evidence.Next was a new study on aerobic v. anaerobic energy contribution, finding that the 50/50 turn-point was at just 78.6 seconds. This has massive implications for how we think about training, and why athletes should rarely be pushing as hard as they can.Then we tied it all together with some updated thoughts on uphill treadmill running from new data. It was an upscale buffet of training talk! Like a physiological Golden Corral!&nbsp;Other topics: Rachael Rudel’s US Championship (which happened right before we recorded), how her training works, a new segment called Comments Corner, why you need to be careful about the last song you hear before racing, wisdom on performance from Roger Federer, Curt Cignetti’s unique coaching approach, toxic running groups/friends, cycling on and off creatine, weekly mileage as a proxy for growth (or not), the perils of taking off-brand probiotics, the interaction of carbs and taper theory, and the connection between our AI discussions and doping.We love you all! HUZZAH!-David and MeganClick "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com/swap</a>Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>

327. How to Improve Fatigue Resistance, Weekly Mileage, Aerobic v. Anaerobic Systems, and Cycling Doses of Creatine

We got an extra dose of confidence before this great episode! The main topic was the history made at UTMB, with Ben Dhiman arguably running the best ultra race of all time. We also talked about being young and fit forever with Hans Troyer, the women throwing down across the board, and what we think we’re seeing with the monstrous performances at all the races.And this episode was full of fun topics! Other topics: low confidence Strava posting, our favorite gel, AI-driven review articles, a study on short-term heat training in cool temps, Brian Reynolds’ amazing Leadville triumph, the future of backyard ultras, the incredible Dolly Parton, a follow-up on AI science, cheering for other athletes, heat and female athlete marathon training, taking Nomio at night, and the long-tail of PEDs.Stick around for a beautiful listener corner message. People are people, and that can be so comforting.Also, stick around to guess what segment we had to remove. 10 minutes of the podcast are lost to eternity... probably for the best. We love you all! HUZZAH!Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap">thefeed.com/swap</a>  Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com">https://janji.com</a> (code "SWAP")Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap">patreon.com/swap</a>Contribute to Jeff Browning’s family: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jeff-and-the-browning-family">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jeff-and-the-browning-family</a> Follow Laini Bones: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lainibones/">https://www.instagram.com/lainibones/</a>

We got an extra dose of confidence before this great episode! The main topic was the history made at UTMB, with Ben Dhiman arguably running the best ultra race of all time. We also talked about being young and fit forever with Hans Troyer, the women throwing down across the board, and what we think we’re seeing with the monstrous performances at all the races. And this episode was full of fun topics! Other topics: low confidence Strava posting, our favorite gel, AI-driven review articles, a study on short-term heat training in cool temps, Brian Reynolds’ amazing Leadville triumph, the future of backyard ultras, the incredible Dolly Parton, a follow-up on AI science, cheering for other athletes, heat and female athlete marathon training, taking Nomio at night, and the long-tail of PEDs. Stick around for a beautiful listener corner message. People are people, and that can be so comforting. Also, stick around to guess what segment we had to remove. 10 minutes of the podcast are lost to eternity... probably for the best. We love you all! HUZZAH! Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: https://janji.com (code "SWAP") Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap Contribute to Jeff Browning’s family: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jeff-and-the-browning-family Follow Laini Bones: https://www.instagram.com/lainibones/

We got an extra dose of confidence before this great episode! The main topic was the history made at UTMB, with Ben Dhiman arguably running the best ultra race of all time. We also talked about being young and fit forever with Hans Troyer, the women throwing down across the board, and what we think we’re seeing with the monstrous performances at all the races.And this episode was full of fun topics! Other topics: low confidence Strava posting, our favorite gel, AI-driven review articles, a study on short-term heat training in cool temps, Brian Reynolds’ amazing Leadville triumph, the future of backyard ultras, the incredible Dolly Parton, a follow-up on AI science, cheering for other athletes, heat and female athlete marathon training, taking Nomio at night, and the long-tail of PEDs.Stick around for a beautiful listener corner message. People are people, and that can be so comforting.Also, stick around to guess what segment we had to remove. 10 minutes of the podcast are lost to eternity... probably for the best.&nbsp;We love you all! HUZZAH!Click "Get 40% Off" button for 40% off at The Feed here: <a href="http://thefeed.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">thefeed.com/swap</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Buy Janji's amazing gear: <a href="https://janji.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://janji.com</a> (code "SWAP")Get a deal on the best treadmill on the market from Wahoo: <a href="https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.wahoofitness.com/devices/running/treadmills/kickr-run-buy</a> (code “SWAP”)For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: <a href="http://patreon.com/swap" rel="noopener noreferrer">patreon.com/swap</a>Contribute to Jeff Browning’s family: <a href="https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jeff-and-the-browning-family" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-jeff-and-the-browning-family</a>&nbsp;Follow Laini Bones: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lainibones/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/lainibones/</a>

326. HISTORY at UTMB with The Best Performance Ever (?!), Our Favorite Gel, The Future of Backyard Ultras, Heat Training in Cool Temps, and Nomio at Night!

We persevered through unironic uses of the word "boondoggle" to talk about 4 topics: aging and performance, long run intensity, training partner dynamics, and procrastination/productivity. WOOHOO!

We persevered through unironic uses of the word "boondoggle" to talk about 4 topics: aging and performance, long run intensity, training partner dynamics, and procrastination/productivity. WOOHOO!

6. Long run intensity and training partners

We overcame our sensitive dispositions to talk about four topics: developing healthier relationships with social media, avoiding within-day energy deficits, why it's OK if you can't sleep, and how to embrace your athletic self no matter where that journey leads. WOOHOO!

We overcame our sensitive dispositions to talk about four topics: developing healthier relationships with social media, avoiding within-day energy deficits, why it's OK if you can't sleep, and how to embrace your athletic self no matter where that journey leads. WOOHOO!

5. Social Media & Why it's OK if You Can't Sleep

We overcame bad hair days/months to talk about 4 topics: the impostor syndrome, the power of strides, why your fitness is your best day, and finding your talent. WOOHOO!

We overcame bad hair days/months to talk about 4 topics: the impostor syndrome, the power of strides, why your fitness is your best day, and finding your talent. WOOHOO!

4. Impostor Syndrome and Strides

We fueled with Campbell's Chunky Soup for these 5 topics: dealing with uncertainty, certainty in relationships, the importance of rest days, the unimportance of VO2 max, and haters. Woohoo!

We fueled with Campbell's Chunky Soup for these 5 topics: dealing with uncertainty, certainty in relationships, the importance of rest days, the unimportance of VO2 max, and haters. Woohoo!

3. Uncertainty PhD and Savory Pot Roast

We guess we're doing this! Topics: aging, heat and hemoglobin, Hamilton, the power of the shuffle, and self-belief practice. (And waffles)

We guess we're doing this! Topics: aging, heat and hemoglobin, Hamilton, the power of the shuffle, and self-belief practice. (And waffles)

2. Hemoglobin and Alexander freaking Hamilton

Welcome to the Some Work, All Play podcast! This may be the only episode. Or not! Adventure time!

Welcome to the Some Work, All Play podcast! This may be the only episode. Or not! Adventure time!

1. Shoot your shot and waffles

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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