Palmer Luckey, Co-Founder of Anduril, joins Sourcery for an unfiltered walk through some of the most controversial & speculative questions in modern defense technology, from UAPs and UFOs to invisibility tech, moon warfare, and why all of it may be running on parallel tracks to today’s human military development.

Luckey breaks down what war would actually look like in space and on the moon, why spacecraft are nearly impossible to armor, and why survival off-Earth is so fragile that conflict would be “decisive and catastrophic.” He also explains Anduril’s real work on optical camouflage, why visible-spectrum invisibility is easier than people think, and why it’s largely irrelevant against modern adversaries armed with infrared, radar, and lidar.

The conversation moves from the serious to the personal: Palmer’s blunt take on media coverage and testing failures, his belief that UAPs are likely not recently manufactured, his side project ModRetro (from an heirloom-grade Game Boy to the upcoming M64), and how becoming a father has—and hasn’t—changed his long-term worldview. 

Equal parts speculative, technical, and philosophical, this episode captures the mind of a founder who’s comfortable operating at the edge of science, industry, and culture.

Palmer Luckey: https://x.com/PalmerLuckey

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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YouTube : https://youtu.be/WEGJh-4Iq30

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• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

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(00:00) Palmer Luckey, Co-Founder Anduril

(01:26) Fury: The first autonomous fighter jet

(04:28) Anduril testing failures & Press heat

(11:47) What would war look like on the Moon?

(14:28) Invisible drones & Why camouflaging isn't useful

(18:47) UAPs are from the past?

(22:16) Seabed Sentry, Sentry Tower & Ocean surveillance

(24:44) Shipbuilding gap with China & Why ships matter

(27:18) Palmer's garage projects: Jet engine motorcycle

(30:43) Lessons from fatherhood?

(32:17) The next big step for Anduril

Trae Stephens, Co-Founder & Executive Chairman of Anduril, & Partner at Founders Fund, joins Sourcery for a behind-the-scenes conversation on Anduril’s 2017 founding, when defense tech was deeply unpopular in Silicon Valley, the cultural shift that followed, and how software, autonomy, manufacturing scale, and ethics now converge in modern warfare and national security.

Stephens explains Anduril’s core thesis: software-defined, hardware-enabled, and why the company is building a multi-domain autonomy strategy across sea, ground, air, and space. He also outlines the manufacturing view that “the factory is the weapon,” including Anduril’s expansion into scaled production with Arsenal-1 (a planned ~5 million sq ft campus near Columbus, Ohio) and a broader network of facilities and partners.

The conversation also covers ethics and strategy: Stephens discusses Just War Theory (St. Augustine), the goal of increasing precision while removing humans from “dull, dirty, dangerous” roles, and the broader cultural shifts shaping America. He reflects on lessons from Palantir and Founders Fund, including Peter Thiel’s influence, concentration in venture, and “zero-to-one” strategy, and shares what he looks for when investing in founders.

Trae Stephens: https://x.com/traestephens

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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YouTube : https://youtu.be/9Fdq1TShG2w

𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐒

(00:00) Trae Stephens, Co-founder & Executive Chairman Anduril

(01:03) Rise of defense tech & Pete Hegseth visit

(03:58) Origin of Anduril & James Bond dreams

(05:18) Anduril's multi-domain defense strategy

(06:42) China's subsidies & US government investments

(08:46) "Factory is the weapon" & re-industrialization

(10:30) Arsenal-1 Ohio factory

(13:44) What people get wrong about Anduril

(17:08) Biggest Lesson from Palantir

(19:04) Just War theory & defense ethics

(22:16) Cultural shift from AI slop to good quests

(23:49) How Anduril is building “Apple for defense”

(27:03) Founders Fund investments: Varda, Armada, Cognition, General Matter

(29:52) Why is Peter Thiel always right?

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• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

Matt Grimm, Co-Founder & COO of Anduril, walks us through Anduril’s headquarters in Costa Mesa—a rare, and possibly first look, inside the physical systems that turn ideas into fielded products. We tour Building A, a 200,000 sq ft R&D facility with machine shop, composites, metrology, electronic warfare test environments, and a dev-test area designed to “break things” so the team can iterate faster.

Grimm explains how Anduril scaled from a ~5,000 sq ft former lost-luggage garage (with mold and no bathroom) to a global footprint of ~7,000 employees and roughly 34–35 offices, while ramping production and operations. We also get hands-on with key systems and platforms, including the Ghost Shark (XL-AUV) autonomous submarine program and Anduril’s distributed compute and command-and-control stack: Menace & Titan (in partnership with Palantir).

As COO, Grimm also lays out how the co-founders divide responsibilities at scale: Palmer Luckey drives new product concepts & CONOPS while serving as Anduril’s most visible public figure; Brian Schimpf, as CEO, sets strategy & evaluates global defense programs & timing; Trae Stephens leads investor relations & owns marketing and design (Ohio State, NASCAR); & Matt Grimm runs the operational core, from facilities & security to supply chain, production, logistics, & sustainment.

This is Part 2 of 4 of our interview series with Anduril’s Founders, in addition to our compiled video, check them all out!

Matt Grimm: https://x.com/mttgrmm

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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YouTube: https://youtu.be/7rvStMD9WFU

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

Full Interview: Brian Schimpf, Co-Founder and CEO of Anduril, joins Sourcery to discuss the company’s scale, strategy, and position in the defense market. He outlines Anduril’s growth to roughly 7,000 employees, $1B+ in revenue with continued YoY doubling, and a reported $30.5B valuation (too low?), while addressing IPO speculation & these wild “fake SPVs.”

The conversation covers geopolitical instability, production constraints in the U.S. defense industrial base, and how the nearly $1 trillion defense budget is actually allocated to personnel, infrastructure, and sustainment, rather than new procurement. Schimpf draws on leadership lessons from Palantir, highlighting creativity, high agency (“Artisty & Meritocracy’), and long-term alignment with military needs.

Schimpf also explains Anduril’s expansion from early autonomous systems into a portfolio spanning autonomous aircraft, cruise missiles, electronic warfare, and networked sensing and command platforms, enabled by a shared software and hardware foundation built around Lattice. Emphasizing the company’s focus on a distributed, autonomous battlefield and the ability to rapidly field new capabilities.

FWIW: Spending time on Anduril’s campus ahead of the final interview of the day offered such a strong view into the scale and complexity of the organization Brian is leading. Walking through the facility and meeting with the founding team made the scope of Anduril’s operations very real, but also highlighted just how complementary their skill sets are and how that translates into execution at scale. And with that, I have concluded that given the company’s growth, momentum, & market position.. Anduril may still be undervalued.

Brian Schimpf: https://x.com/SchimpfBrian

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒

YouTube : https://youtu.be/P5dsb28UVec

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

This is a rare, behind-the-scenes walking tour & sit-down interview inside Anduril Industries, a $30.5B defense technology company that develops and sells autonomous systems, AI-powered software, and advanced hardware for military and security applications to protect US and allied forces.. one of the most consequential defense companies of this era.

In this Sourcery exclusive, we go inside Anduril’s headquarters and R&D facilities with the founding team: Palmer Luckey, Brian Schimpf, Matt Grimm, & Trae Stephens, to understand how modern defense technology is actually built.

We walk through:

• Anduril’s R&D labs, machine shop, and test environments

• Autonomous fighter aircraft (Fury) and manned-unmanned teaming

• Fully autonomous submarines (Ghost Shark / Dive-XL)

• Distributed command-and-control systems (Menace, Titan, Eagle Eye)

• Arsenal-1, Anduril’s upcoming 5M sq ft hyperscale manufacturing campus in Ohio

And discuss:

• Why manufacturing capacity is now deterrence

• Where the nearly $1T U.S. defense budget actually goes

• Why legacy procurement systems struggle with speed

• How Anduril beat Boeing, Lockheed, and Northrop on next-gen fighter programs

• The ethics of AI, autonomy, and Just War Theory

• Why testing to failure is essential — and misunderstood

• How global instability is reshaping defense spending worldwide

It’s a candid, technically deep, historically grounded conversation about war, factories, speed, ethics, and the future of deterrence, filmed inside one of the most closed, sensitive, and technologically advanced facilities in American industry.

Brian Schimpf: https://x.com/SchimpfBrian

Matt Grimm: https://x.com/mttgrmm

Trae Stephens: https://x.com/traestephens

Palmer Luckey: https://x.com/PalmerLuckey

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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YouTube : https://youtu.be/RBXXYpjs9TE

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

With great honor, Mr. Emil Michael, the Under Secretary of War for Research & Engineering (USW(R&E)) and Chief Technology Officer for the Department of War (DoW), joins Sourcery in front of a F117 at the Reagan National Defense Forum 2025 to dispel common misconceptions about the DoW, modern defense technology, & the role of companies like Palantir, SpaceX, & Anduril.

Drawing on his unique path from hyperscaling Uber into a global technology company to now overseeing the DoW’s research, development, & prototyping enterprise, he breaks down how the system actually works behind the scenes.

He also outlines the DoW’s 6 Critical Technology Areas — Applied AI, Scaled Hypersonics, Scaled Directed Energy, Biomanufacturing, Contested Logistics, & Battlefield Information Dominance — and explains how these priorities reflect the realities of modern warfare rather than the myths often portrayed around the sector.

Bonus: Newer companies Emil Michael highlights as emerging leaders in defense innovation include Planet Labs for commercial satellite imagery, Neros as a next-generation drone company, Hadrian for AI-driven advanced manufacturing, and a broader group of frontier AI companies now engaging with the Department of War.

Emil Michael: https://x.com/emilmichael

Molly O’Shea: ⁠⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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YouTube: https://youtu.be/6Lfst-RXX9k

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel.

https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems.

https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence.

https://carta.com/data/sourcery/

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs.

https://www.public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

Manny Medina, Co-Founder & CEO of Paid and former CEO of $4.4B Sales Tech company, Outreach, hosts Sourcery at their HQ in London to discuss the early development of AI agents & what this shift means for software businesses.

Roughly $300 billion in SaaS revenue remains “trapped” in legacy pricing and delivery models. After scaling Outreach to 6,000 customers, 220,000 active users, and $250M in ARR, Manny saw firsthand that many SaaS monetization frameworks don’t fit agentic systems, which perform full end-to-end workflows rather than individual user-driven tasks. This gap led him to build Paid, the platform designed to help companies measure, price, & manage the economics of agents.

And it's working.. early customers have reported 20–40% revenue growth within six months of adopting the platform.

With $33.3M in total funding, Paid is backed by Sequoia Capital, Lightspeed Venture Partners, EQT Ventures, GTM Fund, & FUSE.

Timestamps

(00:00) Why Manny built Paid after Outreach
(01:05) The $300B trapped revenue problem
(02:00) Why seat-based pricing breaks for AI agents
(03:10) How agents perform full end-to-end workflows
(04:00) Early use cases: support, ops, underwriting
(05:20) SaaS companies shifting to agentic models
(06:15) Pricing agents on outcomes, not seats
(07:10) Managing margins + model costs
(08:00) Founder-led sales and early GTM
(08:55) Why efficiency must start on day one
(09:40) Palantir-style, forward-deployed culture
(10:30) How Paid helps companies monetize agents
(11:20) Education needed for SaaS pricing change
(12:10) What the next 12–24 months look like for agents
(13:00) Manny’s outlook on the agentic economy

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. https://public.com/sourcery

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

Marc Bhargava, Managing Director at General Catalyst and head of the firm’s Creation Strategy, breaks down one of the most significant shifts happening inside venture and private markets today: AI Roll-Ups. 

One of the 3 largest venture players with ~$40B AUM, General Catalyst has quietly built a $1.5B AI roll-up engine dedicated to incubating AI-native companies & acquiring the fragmented services businesses they can transform — a model that sits directly at the intersection of venture creation, operational transformation, & what has traditionally been the realm of private equity.

Marc explains why the firm believes the global services economy (a $16 trillion market historically defined by low margins and slow modernization) is now on the verge of being reshaped. Not by traditional software, and not by classic PE rollups, but by AI-enabled companies that combine in-house automation software with the acquisition of real distribution. These companies, built initially inside GC’s Creation Strategy, have already begun doubling EBITDA margins within 12 months, demonstrating what becomes possible when AI automation frees 20–30% of repetitive tasks and allows teams to handle significantly greater throughput.

The conversation goes deep into how GC selects industries for this strategy, mapping 70 services categories down to the 10 where AI can have the most immediate impact. Marc outlines the 4 categories of work AI now reliably automates, from customer service and data entry to content generation and early-stage reasoning, and how those capabilities form the backbone of portfolio companies like Crescendo, Long Lake, Titan MSP, Eudia, & others. 

Marc Bhargava: https://x.com/marcbhargava

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒

• Brex—The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery

• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

• Public–Investing platform Public just launched Generated Assets, which lets you turn any idea into an investable index with AI. With Generated Assets, you can build, backtest, refine, and invest in any thesis with AI. Gone are the days of one-size-fits-all ETFs. public.com/sourcery 

Follow Sourcery for the latest updates!

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Disclosure

Paid Endorsement. Brokerage services by Open to the Public Investing Inc, member FINRA & SIPC. Advisory services by Public Advisors LLC, SEC-registered adviser. Crypto trading provided by Zero Hash LLC, licensed by the NYSDFS. Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool by Public Advisors. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. See disclosures at public.com/disclosures/ga. Matched funds must remain in your account for at least 5 years. Match rate and other terms are subject to change at any time.

Bradley Tusk joins Sourcery to discuss what he learned working closely with Travis Kalanick during Uber’s early regulatory battles, and how those experiences shaped his decision to shut down his venture fund and return to an equity-for-services model.

Bradley explains why Travis was unusually fast, analytical, and willing to challenge institutions, and how that mindset influenced the way Uber approached politics and growth. He also breaks down how the current AI wave is affecting valuations, capital formation, data-center spending, and the broader regulatory environment.

The conversation covers the real economics of running a VC fund, why mid-sized funds struggle, how AI is reshaping startup incentives, and what founders should understand about regulation, policy, and long-term strategy. It’s a practical, grounded discussion from someone who has worked at the intersection of tech and government for over a decade.

Bradley Tusk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/btusk/

Molly O’Shea: ⁠https://x.com/MollySOShea⁠

Sourcery: ⁠https://x.com/sourceryvc

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• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

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(00:00) Intro

(01:25) How AI infrastructure spending is being driven by market narratives

(03:10) DeepSeek, inference models, and compute efficiency

(03:55) Where the $2T in AI data-center and energy capital is flowing

(07:10) Nuclear energy and the broader implications of AI’s power demand

(16:30) Zero-sum vs abundance thinking in tech and politics

(17:35) How people find meaning, purpose, and balance in high-pressure work

(27:00) Why Bradley invests heavily in his team and removes non-essential tasks

(32:00) How Bradley’s experience with Travis Kalanick shaped his view of founders

(32:35) “Travis’s Law” and turning users into political advocates

(37:05) Why Bradley decided to stop raising traditional VC funds

(44:30) The economics of mid-sized funds and why they’re so difficult to run

(49:20) How AI valuations differ from non-AI valuations

(54:40) What people misunderstand about Silicon Valley and DC

(59:40) AI, unemployment risk, and why Bradley believes UBI will be necessary

(01:05:50) The biggest lessons Bradley learned from Travis Kalanick

Thrive Capital Partner Philip Clark joins Sourcery to break down how one of the most concentrated and influential firms in tech evaluates founders, builds conviction, and partners with companies that reshape the world.

“Josh always had a line to me when I joined Thrive, which is that the people who win deals are the ones who want to win them most.”

In this episode, we go deep on Thrive’s investments in OpenAI, Cursor, Wiz, Nudge, Physical Intelligence, and why Philip believes we’re entering a golden era for hardware — powered by cheaper sensors, software intelligence, and a new generation of engineers trained at SpaceX, Anduril, and Neuralink.

Philip tells the inside story of:

Seeing an early demo of OpenAI’s GPT-4 before launch

Why Thrive flew into an active war zone to close the Wiz deal

Cursor’s explosive growth from a small pivot to a multi-hundred-million ARR product

How Nudge is engineering the human brain using ultrasound

Why hardware’s barriers are falling and why the biggest companies of the next decade may be physical

If you want to understand the future of AI, hardware, and the next generation of “counterfactual companies,” this is the episode.

Philip Clark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-clark-883a41126/

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• Turing—Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-ready systems. https://turing.com/sourcery

• Carta—Carta connects founders, investors, and limited partners through software purpose-built for private capital. Trusted by 65,000+ companies in 160+ countries, Carta’s platform of software & services lays the groundwork so you can build, invest, and scale with confidence. https://carta.com/sourcery/?utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=sourcery&utm_campaign=20250923-amer-carta_sourcery_data_insights

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(00:00) Who is Philip Clark? How he joined Thrive Capital

(02:45) From physics to investing: becoming a technologist–optimist

(04:00) How semiconductors led him to Thrive

(06:00) Deep dive: Mesh Optical & the data center interconnect opportunity

(07:45) Inside Cursor’s explosive growth and why AI is “speed chess”

(09:15) How Philip first met Cursor’s founders during a pivot

(11:30) Path to partner & Thrive’s “full-stack investor” model

(13:45) The Wiz story: flying into an active war zone

(17:15) Why Wiz closed six-figure deals in weeks — the rare “fast + big” enterprise combo

(19:30) Why hardware is back: sensors, software, and SpaceX-trained talent

(21:45) The rise of Nudge and engineering the human brain

(26:30) Neuralink & Nudge: read to stimulate

(31:15) Why Thrive concentrates instead of “spray and pray”

(36:00) Inside OpenAI: seeing GPT-4 before launch

(40:45) What comes after SaaS — and the companies unlocked by AI