Welcome to a special limited series: Parallel Play with Liz of LizGetsLoaded and Kathleen from The Reframe!

In today's special crossover episode, join Liz and me as we debate all things fitness tracking. We square off on Oura rings v. leather-bound notebooks, sleep scores v. vibe checks, and much more. Liz schools me on step bets and HRV, and I razz her on gold star chasing, but we both get our Zone 2 cardio in purely via laugher.

Find Liz everywhere on the internet as LizGetsLoaded, including her website, her Substack account, and of course her podcast.

As for moi: please reach out! I'd love to hear your thoughts. Gmail is [email protected], and Instagram is ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kathleen at The Reframe Podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.