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October 28 Holding On to Jesus While Letting Go of Certainty w/ Kristin Mockler Young
In this episode, pastor and author Kristin Mockler Young returns to Spirit Outspoken to talk about her new book, The Other Side of Certainty. She shares why so many people quietly wonder if they’re crazy or alone for questioning, and why changing your mind is part of growing in faith, not walking away from it.
Jaisa and Rachael dig into deconstruction and the religious shame that keeps so many people performing and proving. Kristin explains how to find your own holy burden instead of feeling guilty for everything you’re not doing, how to trust your discernment and see God in unexpected places, how to stay curious and compassionate with family and friends who don’t understand your journey.and why “I don’t know” can be one of the most faithful answers there is.
If you’re tired of performing, proving or feeling alone in your faith, this conversation offers a more honest, freeing and hopeful way forward.
Kristin Mockler Young
Kristin Mockler Young is a teaching pastor at Mosaic Church, host of the Becoming Church podcast, and author of The Other Side of Certainty. Through her teaching, podcast and Substack, she encourages curiosity over certainty and helps people find God in unexpected places.
Website: kristinmockleryoung.com
Instagram: @kristinmockleryoung
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Order Kristing's Book "The Other Side of Certainty"

If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:
Episode 46: Questioning God & Rebuilding Faith w/ Kristin Mockler-Young
Episode 101: Taught to Question Everything Except Your Faith w/ Kristian A. Smith

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October 23Minisode 10.23.26: What are the most influential books you've read?
The books that rewired their faith, calmed their minds, and changed how they see life are finally out in the open. Jaisa and Rachael share the most influential reads in their libraries, from spiritual classics to astrology texts, and explain why these are the books they return to when they need clarity, comfort, or a completely new lens.

Together, they compare notes on the titles that shaped their thinking, including The Untethered Soul, A New Earth, The Power of Now, Jesus Calling, Richard Rohr's contemplative Christianity, and Stephen Forrest's astrology books Inner Sky and Yesterday's Sky. They also talk about why some books land only at the right time, why rereading matters, and how a great book can act like therapy for your heart and soul.

You’ll discover:
The book that helped separate soul from ego and quiet constant mental chatter
Why A New Earth and The Power of Now hit differently when you are ready for them
How Jesus Calling and Richard Rohr offer daily spiritual grounding without feeling heavy or preachy
Why Stephen Forrest's writing makes complex astrology feel poetic, precise, and personal
How to use books as a tool for self-reflection, healing, and practical guidance

If you have ever wanted a reading list that actually means something - not just books to collect, but books that shift how you live - this episode gives you a deeply personal starting point. It’s especially perfect if you’re craving spiritual growth, calmer thoughts, or a more expansive way to understand yourself and your path.
And if you finish this episode with a longer wishlist, you’re not alone. Jaisa and Rachael even point listeners to their full recommended reading section at spiritoutspoken.com so you can keep the momentum going.
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19 min
October 21 How a Near-Death Experience Changed Everything He Believed About Heaven w/ Vinney Tolman
What if heaven isn’t a reward waiting at the end of your life, but something you can step into right now?
In this episode, Vinney Tolman, author of The Light After Death, shares the near-death experience that turned his understanding of Christianity upside down. Raised to see life as a courtroom where souls are sorted for heaven or hell, Vinney found himself watching his own death, then being met by a loving guide he later recognized in a family photo as one of his ancestors.
Jaisa and Rachael dig into what he saw on the other side, why he came back feeling more Christian than ever, and what he learned about fear, love and the teachings of Jesus, the one he calls Yeshua.
The ladies also explore whether heaven is a place, a choice or a state of being, why Vinney sees hell as fear we choose until it starts choosing us, and how reincarnation may have once been part of Christian thought.
This conversation is for anyone who was taught to fear the afterlife and is ready to imagine something far more loving.
Vinney Tolman:
Vincent “Vinney” Tolman is the author of The Light After Death: My Journey to Heaven and Back. Since his near-death experience, he has shared his story around the world, inviting people to see heaven, love and faith through a far more expansive lens.
Website: https://thelightafterdeath.com/
Instagram: @VinneyTolman
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:
Episode 64 - Loved Ones Never Leave Us: A Psychic Medium on the After Life w/ Sean Collyns
Episode 67: Angels, Intuition & Divine Guidance w/ Kyle Gray
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October 16 Minisode 10.16.26 "What are your favorite episodes?"
Which Spirit Outspoken episodes changed us the most? In this Ask Rach & Jais minisode, Rachael and Jaisa revisit the guests, conversations, and revelations that challenged everything they thought they knew about faith, feminism, and Christianity.
From Joash Thomas and Father Pete Nunnally to deep dives into Mary Magdalene, the Gnostic Gospels, Celtic Christianity, and the Bible's history, they share the moments that sparked some of their biggest spiritual shifts.
Expect laughs, honest reflections, and plenty of rabbit holes as they look back on two years of questioning, growing, and unlearning. Whether you're a longtime listener or new to Spirit Outspoken, this episode might inspire you to revisit a favorite, or discover one you missed.
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October 14 Episode 103: Growing Up Gay in the Evangelical South and Healing Through Music w/ Garrison Starr
When the faith you were raised in no longer has room for who you are, where do you go next?
Singer-songwriter Garrison Starr joins Jaisa and Rachael to talk about growing up gay in an evangelical Mississippi community, losing friends and church family along the way, and grieving the beliefs she could no longer hold. It's an honest conversation filled with laughter, vulnerability, and moments that hit deep.
Garrison shares how songwriting became her path back to the sacred, including her new album, The Gospel Truth, which she describes as “swamp gospel hymns for humans.” Together, they explore learning to trust your own intuition, giving yourself permission to question, and discovering belonging on the other side of deconstruction.
For anyone who's ever felt like they had to choose between being true to themselves and belonging to their faith community.
Garrison Starr:
Garrison Starr is a singer, songwriter and Grammy-nominated record producer whose work spans Americana, indie folk and soul. Her new album, The Gospel Truth, continues her story of healing from an evangelical Christian upbringing.

Website: https://www.garrisonstarr.com/
Instagram: @GarrisonStarr https://www.instagram.com/garrisonstarr/
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:

Episode 58 - The1946 Mistake That Changed Christianity: "How Homosexual Entered the Bible
Episode 59 - What We Got Wrong About Homosexuality (Culture, Politics & the Church)
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1 hr 7 min
October 09 Minisode 10.9.26: "How did you go from mom friends to spiritual gangsters?"
How did friendship, grief, faith, and unexpected intuitive experiences lead Rachael and Jaisa to start a podcast? They share the moments that brought them together, and why they’re not afraid to talk about the things others might shy away from.
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21 min
October 07 Episode 102: The Divine Feminine, Mary Magdalene and Trusting Your Own Body w/ Chelsea Kim Long
The patriarchy didn’t just shape Christianity, it taught women to distrust their bodies, intuition, and spiritual knowing.

In this episode, Chelsea Kim Long, author of Faithfully Dissident Daughters, shares the awakening that led her to rethink purity culture, embodiment, church history, and the divine feminine. This episode provides a deep conversation about what women have been taught to fear, why pregnancy became a turning point in her faith, and what can happen when women begin trusting themselves again.

Chelsea explores how male-centered theology can make God feel distant, how biblical language around birth and being “born again” can open the door to a more feminine understanding of the divine, and why representation matters, in faith, community, and our understanding of God.

The ladies discuss Mary Magdalene, the women surrounding Jesus, and scholarship that questions whether their roles were minimized over time. Chelsea shares the theory that Mary of Bethany and Mary Magdalene may have been the same woman, why that possibility matters, and how scripture can look different when read through the lenses of mysticism, embodiment, and contemplative Christianity.

This conversation is for anyone deconstructing, reconstructing, or wondering whether a more expansive and life-giving Christianity has been there all along.

Our guest:
Chelsea Kim Long is the author of Faithfully Dissident Daughters and a writer, speaker, and spiritual seeker whose work explores Christianity through embodiment, mysticism, and the divine feminine. Her work invites people to approach progressive Christianity with greater honesty, curiosity, and freedom.

Website: https://www.chelseakimlong.com/
Instagram: @chelseakimlong

If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:
Episode 48: Banned from the Bible: The Hidden Gospel of Paul & Thecla w/ Meggan Watterson

Episode 91: Mysticism, Empire & Finding Our Way Back to Love w/ Joash P Thomas

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#deconstruction #divinefeminine #marymagdalene #christianity #spirituality #exvangelical #christianmysticism
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1 hr 6 min
October 02 Minisode 10.2.26: What happens when your spirituality is evolving, but your partner’s isn’t?
We are excited to launch our new minisode series "Ask Rach & Jais" dropping every Friday!
You send us your questions, and we’ll talk them through together. Love, life, spirituality, relationships… nothing is off limits (and we definitely don’t have all the answers, just honest thoughts and a little friend-to-friend perspective).
This week, we’re asking: What happens when your spirituality is evolving, but your partner’s isn’t?
Come hang out, join the conversation, and share what you’re navigating too.
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September 30 Episode 101: Taught to Question Everything Except Your Faith: A Baptist Preacher on Deconstruction w/ Kristian A. Smith
What happens when you're taught to think critically about everything except your faith? Kristian A. Smith, a pastor, author, public theologian and fifth-generation Baptist preacher, found out on day one of seminary, when a professor told his class the Bible is not the word of God.
In this episode, Jaisa and Rachael sit down with Kristian to talk deconstruction, fear-based religion and what changes when hell is no longer the thing keeping you in line. He shares why Jesus has become a mascot for Christian nationalism, why even Jesus had to evolve, and how honoring lived experience guides the faith community he pastors.
They also dig into his greatest commandment theology, the idea that loving God, loving your neighbor and loving yourself are a package deal, and sit with the big question underneath it all: who is Jesus beyond the way institutions have defined him?
If you've ever been told your questions were dangerous, this one is for you.
Our guest: Kristian A. Smith is a pastor, public theologian, and digital pastor of The Faith Community Virtual, an inclusive, justice-rooted online community where people from all backgrounds can gather, connect, learn, ask big questions, and explore faith together.
He is the author of Question Your Answers: A Deconstruction Survival Guide, a resource for anyone navigating the kinds of questions and shifts this episode explores, as well as his latest book, Breaking All the Rules: An Ancient Framework for Modern Faith, available on Audible and Amazon.
Kristian is also the host (and resident heretic) of Holy Smokes: Cigars & Spirituality, where cigars, laughter, theology, and honest conversation come together to deconstruct harmful beliefs and build beloved community, one cigar at a time.
Faith Community Website
Faith Community You Tube Channel
E-book Link - Question your Answers
Amazon link for Breaking All the Rules
Patreon - Kristian A Smith
Patreon the Faith Community
Instagram @theKristianASmith
TikTok @theKristianASmith
If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:
Episode 92 - The 5 Stages of Deconstruction: What Happens When Faith Falls Apart and Comes Back Together
Episode 55 - Decolonizing the Church: The Justice of Jesus w/ Joash Thomas

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#deconstruction #christianity #spirituality #exvangelical #progressivechristian #lgbtqchristian #christianmysticism
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59 min
September 23 Episode 100: Is Jesus Bigger Than Christianity?
If God isn't limited to Jesus, why is Jesus limited to Christianity? In the 100th episode, Jaisa and Rachael wrestle with the question that has shaped two years of Spirit Outspoken: can Jesus exist beyond the boundaries of Christianity?

They go back to the receipts. The light that existed before the sun in Genesis. John 1 and the true light that enlightens everyone. Theosis, and a goal of transformation, not just salvation. Justin Martyr calling Socrates a Christian before Christ. Paul and the altar to an unknown God. The Good Samaritan, theologically wrong and still the hero.

This isn't a finished answer. It's a working thesis, built out loud, and you're invited into it: Christ did not begin at Bethlehem, and wherever love is, God is there.

One hundred episodes in, and it feels like they're just getting started.

If you enjoyed this episode be sure to check out:

Episode 32 - The Voice They Tried to Bury: Mary Magdalene, the Hidden Apostle

Episode 34 - Power, Politics and the Bible

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