Rick Doblin, Ph.D. has been working at the intersection of psychedelics, politics & spirituality for more than 30 years. His programs have been so successful they’re now in phase three trials with the FDA, the governing body that approves medication (legalization).

In this conversation, Marianne and Rick discuss the role psychedelics can play in spiritual experiences, the transformative power of the substances when used safely and under the watchful eye of a medical professional, and the surprising supporters MAPS has on both ends of the political spectrum.

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