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Hi Clare.I would really like to talk about meaning and why this planet exists at all. We come with nothing and we leave with nothing and in between it is our “purpose” to know who/what we are and then what? Madeleine Albright (just an example) died not long ago - what was her purpose? Did anything she accomplished matter at all? Creating a new world, but what should that look like then and does it even matter? Is this world simply to unveil us?
Act like a leader, think like a leader by Herminia Ibarra. Sunday Book
If you were an all-powerful, all-knowing consciousness, you could never know sadness, loss, anxiety, surprise, or the excitement of not knowing what will happen next. An all-knowing consciousness could not enjoy jokes or cry at tragedies. By playing the game, consciousness delights in every experience possible, and the only way to do that is for it to lose itself in us.
In the same way that a glass of water is exponentially more satisfying after a five-mile hike in the desert, the experience of feeling the interconnectedness of everything is more fulfilling after the illusion of separation. This is the fun of the game. This is the fun of waking up.
I made a quite funny and interesting observation about the change of your spreaking rhythm over time.
I listen backwards to your podcast while driving from the day on I found it, and I also listen to the daily actual one. So now I am in Oktober 2020. I listened to the new one and immediately after I took the old one on where I left it and there I heard how your speaking rhythm has immensily changed.
In the old on you had a lot more abruptness and acceleration, like rushing and doing sudden changes, and in the actual one there is a lot more evenness and decceleration, like there is more relaxation and more indulging in time.
It was beautiful to notice the development. I hope this doesn't offend you, for me it was so revealing how change can be seen.
The other part of the question is: is the shift happening in our programmed mind or is it something deeper? Some people describe a shift which seems like an experience of the formless. What is really shifting? I love that you show the logic in this because that is very helpful for me. At the same time I wonder if the shift is also of a formless happening which can be difficult to put into words. Sometimes it has been powerful for me to have a deeper understanding of the formless, and then it seems like the form is dissolving. If we concentrate on the form and the thinking it seems like we sometimes can be more trapped in it and there is more focus on the activity of the mind. What are your thoughts about this?
Lately you have been speaking in podcasts and webinars about understanding the selfing and the separate self and how all suffering is because we do not understand that there is no I controlling, choosing and doing. This is really starting to make sense for me and I understand why you want to make this point clear. You have mentioned words like: hopeless, no other way, impossible, no genuine rest, sickness etc to describe what happens when we do not see/understand this. And the thing is; at least for me, it takes time to see this. My question is partly; other people who have experienced a big shift/enlightenment have used other words and concepts to describe it. I wonder if it is helpful to use those words (to be categorical) about consequences of not seeing this? I am thinking it might be possible to have a shift through other "routes" to reality/truth and maybee therefore not helpful to use such strong words? Some people also talk about the difference in where we talk from (the understanding and the experience of it) and what we speak to (the conceptual mind or the formless space). I feel that you do that to a great extent but sometimes lately maybee pointing more to what people do not understand and the hopelessness of that?
I am currently on your Rest course and a member of your community. I have been listening to you for about 2 years now and really love your work and descriptions of the reality of human life. I came to find you from being in Nicola Birds ALPOM community for about 5 years.
I am find that although my body mind understands you perfectly, this understanding has not drop into reality. When i first found Nicola Bird it was at a time when my husband had died of cancer and then 3 months later my brother and only sibling committed suicide. I inherited my husbands business , which i had absolutley no experience of at all and my life felt and still to a lesser degree, felt very insecure. During my childhood i was tramatised by my Mums own insecure behaviour which i now see set up a beleif in myself of fear and shame, having to keep myself small in relationships, plactating to keep myself safe and others happy with me so as they would still like/love me and not be angry with me.
It is only just recently that i have seen these traumas/wounds as being present. My response to my husbands and brothers deaths was to press on. and try and keep my kids, my brothers kids and parents going and at the same time navigate a business i knew nothing about, all happening from the beliefs of my lack which i took on as a child. Anxiety and fear ruled! Being part of this community has helped, but i can feel and hear my frustration at not coming to a deeper place within this conversation.
Am just so tired of all the fear and my family are now finding my low moods and anxiety wearing and i am a worry to them. My lack of faith in myself or anything else can sometimes be very heavy for them.
I would be so grateful for any suggestions and thank you so much for all your work it really is so affirming even if i then go straight back to my belief system, it is a releif to be imursed in your words for that time that i am listening.
Thank you so much for your response to my question about generational domestic abuse. (May 27th) I'm listening to it again and again.
I think I'm beginning to see more of what you're pointing to.
After I separated from my children's dad, I went as "no contact" as was possible, but even the tiny bit of communication we had was fraught with fear from my side and anger from his.
I spent so much time attempting to forgive and release him and myself and yet it was only when I had a beautiful moment of clarity that everything changed.
I saw so clearly that we were both innocent.
I saw that he had done the very best he could. That if he could have possibly done better he would have.
And I saw the same for myself. All the blame and guilt fell away. Grace and peace were left and I fell into a space of such love. Love and acceptance for him, for us and for the life we had created.
A miracle happened without anything changing on the outside because from that moment on, our communication has been respectful and gentle. He hasn't changed. His relationship with our children and with his second wife hasn't changed but
He and I can meet and there is only peace and kindness. When I see an old pattern begin to surface ...That's all it is. Something to see, I have no judgement on it or interaction with it .... it passes and is gone. No more games.
This shift has already changed much in how I see my children and others and listening to your beautiful answer to my question about my son and daughter in law shows me the direction to look in. It is clear to me that that there is more to see. There is more to sit with. There is more to Love.
So I think my question is ...
When I feel the pain, judgement, worry, fear rising is that where I look? Allowing the feelings to have full space in my body? I get hazy here so if you can say more to this I'd be so grateful.
I'm reading your book Well, and listening to you every day.
Thank you, Clare, from the bottom of my heart.
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