Warning: This episode contains some strong language.

Comedian Suzi Ruffell joins Gabby to talk about growing up and realising she was gay without any positive point of reference, and why now - on the cusp of midlife - she’s more determined than ever to celebrate the joy of being gay and having a family of her own. They also talk about the Kate Winslet effect; why it’s only when you really try for something and risk failure that you create something you’re really proud of; and why Suzi’s dad is more proud of the miles she travels than the TV shows she appears on! Spoiler alert: Suzi’s dad might be the real star of this episode. 

Tickets are available for Suzi’s forthcoming 2025 tour called The Juggle, and you can listen to her podcasts - Big Kick Energy, Like Minded Friends, and Out with Suzi Ruffell - on all podcast platforms. 

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