The Learning Future Podcast with Louka Parry

System Design, AI and the Future of Education with Tracey Burns S9E5 (125)


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What are we at risk of losing in our pursuit of efficiency, innovation, and AI-driven transformation in education?

Are we designing systems for resilience—or are we unintentionally reinforcing inequality through the paths of least resistance?

In this insightful conversation, Louka Parry is joined by Tracey Burns—Chief of Global Strategy and Research at the National Center on Education and the Economy, former OECD leader, and international systems thinker. Speaking from Paris, Tracey draws on her global experience to explore how education systems are evolving—and what we risk losing in the process.

Together they dive into the accelerating impact of AI, the legacy of the OECD’s Four Future Scenarios for Schooling, and the urgent need for wisdom, not just innovation, in navigating complexity. From learning models to system inefficiencies, Tracey unpacks why we must be more intentional in preserving what matters—especially the deeply human relationships at the heart of learning. This episode is a call to anticipate, adapt, and interrogate the uncomfortable truths shaping our futures.

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