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Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror."
Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Mar. 7, 2025.
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
Thoughts? Email us at [email protected].
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror."
Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Mar. 7, 2025.
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
Thoughts? Email us at [email protected].
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

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