Join Ailey Jolie and Mariel Pastor, therapist, trainer, and creator of Character Mapping, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation moves through the heart of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy; exploring how self-energy, parts work, and somatic presence can bring us into deeper peace with ourselves and with one another. Mariel shares reflections on spiritual embodiment, cultural conditioning, and the healing power of love in therapeutic spaces. Together they speak to the nuanced relationship between trauma and creativity, the sacredness of the client-clinician connection, and how healing opens us to both tenderness and aliveness. We hope you enjoy the episode.

In this episode: 

• 02:04 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) 
• 08:11 The Systemic Nature of Mind, Body, Spirit, and Culture 
• 12:09 Navigating the Challenges of IFS 
• 18:02 The role of Somatics in IFS Practice 
• 26:03 The importance of Connection in Therapy 
• 34:14 The Role of Nature in Healing 
• 37:21 Creativity and Healing: a deep Connection 
• 39:34 The importance of doing our own Work 4
• 43:53 Artists and the wounds of Creativity 
• 52:09 The Nuances of Performance in Therapy

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