The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast | The #1 Downloaded School Leadership Show

The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast | The #1 Downloaded School Leadership Show

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  1. Number 1: Why Student Behavior Won't Change Until the Adults Do

    Student behavior changed when the adults did: 25 discipline calls a day dropped to about one. Here's the adult-first work behind it. School discipline problems don't start with the kids. Sarah spent years answering 20 to 25 walkie calls a day for escalated students. Tokens, red-light-green-light charts, taking away recess — external systems trying to fix an internal issue. Then she started doing the work on herself first. Ten days into opening a brand-new school this fall, she hasn't answered 12 calls total. Jill Molli has taught Conscious Discipline for 25 years, and she names the leap most principals never make. They'll regulate themselves for a kindergartner. They won't do it for the teacher who yells in the hallway but posts good test scores. Sarah Sicht did it with teachers, parents, and her own superiors. At her previous school, a 100% free-and-reduced-lunch building, that produced zero teacher turnover and a move from the bottom 10% of the state to the top 10% of Title I schools with the same kids and no redistricting. Jill also breaks down SAFE, the four-domain framework Conscious Discipline built by studying principals like Sarah: Sustained leadership, Adult regulation, Foster community, Engaged classroom. It's the spine of the Elevate conference, where Danny is keynoting the S. REGISTER FOR ELEVATE Elevate is Conscious Discipline's conference in Orlando this October. Sessions are labeled by S.A.F.E. domain, so you go straight to what your campus needs. Danny, Jill, and Sarah will all be there. Sign yourself up, sign the team up: https://elevateteacherconference.com/ ⌚️ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - From 25 walkie calls a day to one 04:12 - What Sarah believed about kids before Conscious Discipline 07:09 - Willingness beats waiting for a reason to change 09:11 - Hurt doesn't only show up in Title I schools 10:32 - Building the soil with a brand-new staff 14:39 - The hardest part is doing it with adults 17:49 - Why leading alone gets hard 23:24 - What COVID taught Sarah about connection 26:55 - Lowest 10% to top 10% with the same kids 28:32 - The two questions every staff member asks 36:17 - Where the SAFE framework came from 38:32 - Breaking down the SAFE framework 46:09 - The one thing: it's adult first

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  2. Number 2: Why Principals Won't Delegate (And What It's Costing Them) with Naphtali Hoff

    Dr. Naphtali Hoff trains school leaders and teachers to perform at their best without running themselves into the ground. A former educator and school leader himself, Dr. Hoff now coaches and trains school leaders on management, productivity, and delegation across the country. He's the author of three books, and his newest, Becoming the Delegating School Boss, is the one most relevant here — it helps school leaders clear their plates and empower their teams. Dr. Naphtali Hoff joins the Ruckuscast to break down why so many principals resist letting go, and what it actually takes to build a team you can trust. Every principal has felt it: the sense that if they left the building for a day, something would fall apart. That's not a compliment — it's a delegation problem, and it's quietly running good leaders into the ground. This episode breaks down why school leaders won't let go, and the exact framework for handing off real work without losing control of it. 🤯 What You'll Learn Why most delegation "excuses" are unexamined fears, not facts, and how to name yours honestly. How to use the Eisenhower matrix to sort your task list into do, defer, delegate, and delete. Why chasing perfection instead of excellence is quietly costing you time and staff trust. How Ken Blanchard's ABCD trust model tells you who's actually ready to take something off your plate. The one low-risk, low-stakes task every principal should delegate first. 🔨 Breaking Down the Old Rules 📚 Key Insight #1: Why School Leaders Treat Delegation Excuses Like Facts What's broken: Principals tell themselves "I don't have the time to train someone" and treat it as an immovable truth instead of an excuse. The shift: Naphtali Hoff reframes these as excuses, not myths — challenges to work through, not facts to accept. Impact: Leaders who name the excuse for what it is stop waiting for the "right" moment and start handing off real work now. 💡 Key Insight #2: The Eisenhower Matrix Every Principal Needs for Delegation What's broken: Without a system, urgent tasks crowd out important ones, and everything ends up back on the principal's desk. The shift: Sort every task into do, defer, delegate, or delete — and treat quadrant three as your standing delegation list. Impact: Principals free up hours each week for the visioning and instructional leadership work only they can do. 🧲 Key Insight #3: Why Perfection Is Costing Principals Trust, Not Building It What's broken: Leaders hold their team to a personal standard of perfection that almost no one else shares or notices. The shift: Aim for excellence, hand off the outcome, and let go of controlling every small detail along the way. Impact: Staff step up faster, and the principal gets back the hours they were burning on edits nobody asked for. 🧠 NAPHTALI HOFF QUOTES FROM THE RUCKUSCAST "Excellence really should be the goal, because perfection is the enemy of progress." — Naphtali Hoff "Delegating is not abdicating." — Naphtali Hoff "Their standard of good enough is probably a lot lower than your standard of excellence." — Naphtali Hoff "If I leave the building, there's going to be chaos unfolding. That means I have not done a very good job in delegating." — Naphtali Hoff "You have to realize what is it that I'm uniquely gifted at and capable of, and what can I empower other people to do?" — Naphtali Hoff 🧩 Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement? Start here: Tomorrow: Pick one recurring task — a newsletter, a weekly email, an observation schedule — and hand it off with a clear outcome instead of a script. This Month: Run a two-week activity log of everything you do, then sort each task into do, defer, delegate, or delete. This Semester: Move one staff member through Blanchard's four stages — directing, coaching, supporting, delegating — until a real piece of your job is permanently theirs. ⏳ Episode Timestamps 00:00 - The warning sign you're the campus bottleneck 03:02 - Naphtali's delegation disaster as a new headmaster 06:17 - The excuses school leaders use to avoid delegating 08:12 - Why excellence beats perfection in delegation 09:49 - Building trust with the ABCD model 13:50 - Using the Eisenhower matrix to audit your tasks 16:49 - Ruthlessly cutting energy-draining tasks each quarter 22:03 - What leaders should never delegate away 23:23 - Situational leadership and the four stages of delegating 25:00 - How to choose who to delegate to 27:30 - The first low-risk delegation win to try 33:30 - Keeping delegation sustainable when it gets hard 🫶 Connect With Naphtali Hoff 🌍 Websites: impactfulcoaching.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/naphtali.hoff Twitter: https://twitter.com/impactfulcoach LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naphtalihoff/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naphtalihoff/ 📚 Books: Becoming the New Boss, Becoming the Productive Boss, 🎧 Listen & Subscribe Listen to Better Leaders Better Schools on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts. If today's episode moved you, leave a review — it helps more Ruckus Makers find the show. 🧔🏻‍♂️ Your SelfMentorship Guide Meet Digital Danny — your SelfMentorship guide. Always available, never forgets, and evolves with you. Think through your next leadership move at myprincipalcoach.com 🤝 Today's Ruckuscast Partners Most kids "think about" their future. They take a quiz, grab a brochure, and name three careers they saw on TV. That's not a plan. Orchard helps every student build a real, personalized career action plan, with an AI buddy named Orchie guiding the way. Explore careers. Compare paths. Take the next step this week. 🔎 Show your students what's possible → https://betterleaders.orchard.careers/ For 30 years, ODP Business Solutions has helped schools swap tired classrooms for spaces students actually want to walk into. Smart boards, flexible furniture that turns any room into a collaboration zone, and tech integrations that bring lessons to life — all from one supplier, with easy access to cooperative contracts so procurement doesn't slow you down. Innovative school leaders use them to simplify ordering and streamline budgeting while staying compliant. 🔎 Visit ODPbusiness.com/education to redesign your learning spaces. Teachers who say "I taught it, they should have learned it" are missing the diagnostic data to actually close the gap. IXL automatically identifies each student's knowledge gaps and builds a personalized growth plan around them, so teachers walk into class knowing exactly what students know and don't. The platform adjusts difficulty in real time as students learn, making differentiation automatic instead of another task on your plate. 🔎 Get started at ixl.com/leaders Kids First Education was founded by career educators, not consultants, and it shows in how they work. They partner with PreK-12 districts to deliver instructional coaching, leadership development, and curriculum support built on collaboration, reflective planning, and shared problem-solving — not theory. Whether you lead one building or an entire district, their team meets yours where it is. 🔎 See how they can support your school at kidsfirstllc.com

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  3. Number 3: The Stories That Built a Top 1% Podcast/ Building Better Leaders

    Ten years of school leadership podcasting reveals one consistent truth: most principals are doing it alone when they don't have to. In this special anniversary episode, Danny Bauer sits down with co-host Dan Watt to trace the arc from isolated AP to category-defining podcast host — and what he's learned coaching hundreds of school leaders along the way. Dan Watt is a school principal, leadership coach, and Mastermind coach for Better Leaders Better Schools, based in northern British Columbia, Canada. He joined the Ruckus Maker community as a member before stepping into a coaching role, and now co-writes the weekly Ruckus Makers newsletter. He brings a practitioner's lens to every conversation — someone still in the building, still doing the work. Find him through the Ruckus Makers community at ruckusmakers.news. ☑️ What You'll Learn Why Danny started the podcast and what leadership gap drove the decision How the Ruckus Maker Mastermind was built to fill a void no one else in education had addressed The mindset shift that separates thriving principals from burned-out ones What patterns Danny sees repeatedly in the leaders he coaches today Where the Ruckus Maker brand is heading — and why it's bigger than school leadership 🔨 Breaking Down the Old Rules 🧰 Key Insight #1: Working More Hours Is Not a Leadership Strategy What's broken: Districts treat effort and visibility as the measure of a leader's worth — the longer you're on campus, the more you're seen as committed. The shift: Value created and culture built are the real metrics — not hours logged or sleeves rolled up. Impact: Mastermind member Justin stopped seeing more hours as the solution to feeling overwhelmed, found his North Star, and called it transformative. 🧰 Key Insight #2: Isolation Is a Choice, Not a Condition What's broken: Most school leaders wait for the district to provide mentorship, community, or coaching — and the district almost never delivers. The shift: Choosing yourself means actively seeking a community, a coach, and the tools to grow on a weekly basis — not waiting for permission. Impact: When Danny built the Mastermind in 2016, he introduced peer coaching to an industry that had nothing like it; leaders who join stop leading alone. 🧰 Key Insight #3: You Become What You Think About What's broken: Leaders absorb a deficit mindset — kids are broken post-COVID, resources are disappearing, the system is against them — and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. The shift: The Beautiful Constraint mindset asks: given this reality, what needs to be true to accomplish what we want? Impact: Principals who reframe obstacles as constraints to work within — rather than walls to hide behind — lead higher-engagement campuses regardless of what the district hands them. 🗣️ DANNY BAUER QUOTES FROM THE RUCKUS-CAST "The strangest secret is we become what we think about." — Danny Bauer "I no longer see putting in more hours as a solution to this feeling. I very much feel like I'm failing forward with this approach, but I feel like I've found a North Star." — Danny Bauer (quoting Mastermind member Justin) "You can work in isolation and get bumps and bruises and learn from sparring in real life — or you could join a community and hear about everybody else's war wounds and scars, and learn from that without having to go through it yourself." — Danny Bauer "I don't want it to be like a cult of personality. I have an expiration date. And also, I'm only one guy with one perspective, and it's not always the best." — Danny BaueR "Every school leader that wants to grow and meet their potential should join our Mastermind. If you don't want to do that, don't join." — Danny Bauer 🧗‍♂️ Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement? Start here: Tomorrow: Identify one place you're measuring your leadership worth in hours instead of value — and write down what the actual result looks like instead. This Month: Audit your professional development diet: if a conference once a year is your only growth structure, find one weekly or monthly touchpoint — a book, a community, a coach — and commit to it. This Semester: Build or join a peer learning structure where you're both giving and receiving feedback on real leadership challenges, not just sitting in a room listening to a presenter. ⌚️ Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Why Danny started the podcast 10 years ago 04:35 - Danny's early leadership gaps as an AP 08:49 - The public feedback mistake and what it cost 13:38 - Why principals always learn even off the hot seat 20:12 - What were the real stakes 10 years ago 29:54 - How the Mastermind started from a void in education 34:11 - Justin's email: stop measuring worth in hours 40:46 - The Beautiful Constraint mindset for today's climate 48:56 - How Danny lives "you're worth it" daily 55:32 - Where the Ruckus Maker brand is going next 🎧 Listen & Subscribe Listen to Better Leaders Better Schools on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts. If today's episode moved you, leave a review — it helps more Ruckus Makers find the show. 🧔🏻‍♂️ Your Self-Mentorship Guide Meet Digital Danny — your self-mentorship guide. Always available, never forgets, and evolves with you. Think through your next leadership move at myprincipalcoach.com. 🤝 Today's Ruckus-Cast Partners ODP Business Solutions has been a trusted partner for schools for 30 years — helping districts move from whiteboards to smart boards, static classrooms to collaboration zones, and single-vendor chaos to streamlined cooperative contract ordering. If you're trying to design a learning environment students actually want to show up to, 🔍 visit ODPbusiness.com/education. Frontline Education's 2026 K12 Lens Report found that districts using software to automate professional growth are nearly twice as likely to report easier hiring than those that don't. If staffing and retention are keeping you up at night, 🔍 Download the full report at frontlineeducation.com/leaders — it shows exactly what high performing districts are doing differently. IXL's diagnostic identifies every student's knowledge gaps and delivers a personalized growth plan — so teachers stop guessing and start teaching to what students actually need. Close the gaps, accelerate learning, and 🔍 Get started today at ixl.com/leaders. META DESCRIPTION: 10 years of school leadership coaching distilled into one conversation. What Danny Bauer learned building the top 1% podcast for principals who do school different.

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  4. Number 4: Red Hat Rebellion

    The Ruckus Report Quick take: Two beards, two red hats, one mission to blow up education's broken boundaries. Mitch Weathers reveals why saying "no" to district busywork and "yes" to what actually moves the needle isn't rebellion — it's leadership. Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker Mitch became a gifted teacher because he was a mediocre student. Mitch rarely felt comfortable in the classroom. In fact, it took him 7 years to graduate from college. Choosing to become a teacher, Mitch was fortunate enough to experience school as if it was happening all around him. He was unsure how to jump into his learning with confidence. There is a loneliness to experiencing your education as a passive object as opposed to an active subject. From the moment he entered the classroom, Mitch relied on his personal experiences as a learner. He recognized that what we teach—the content or curriculum—is secondary. We must first lay the foundation for learning before we can get to teaching. Mitch designed Organized Binder to empower teachers with a simple but research-backed strategy to teach students executive functioning skills while protecting the time needed for content instruction. The secret is found in establishing a predictable learning routine that serves to foster safer learning spaces. When students get practice with executive functions by virtue, we set them up for success. Learn more in his recent book Executive Functions for Every Classroom. Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 In this episode, Mitch Weathers challenges traditional education paradigms: Key Insight #1: Boundaries Aren't Selfish — They're Strategic What's broken: Leaders burning out because they accept every task as sacred, even when it doesn't serve students The shift: Ask the hard question: "If I can't draw a clear line between this work and student success, why am I doing it?" Impact: Time and energy get redirected to what actually matters — classroom visits, relationship building, and real leadership Key Insight #2: Homework Is Often Educational Theater What's broken: Teachers spending hours collecting, grading, and returning homework that creates inequality and rarely informs instruction The shift: Replace homework with in-class learning logs where students reflect on understanding in real-time Impact: Sustainable formative assessment that gives teachers authentic insight into every student's learning Key Insight #3: Don't Feed the Emotional Monster What's broken: Educators taking student outbursts personally and escalating conflicts into power struggles The shift: Deflect emotional assaults with calm agreement: "You might be right" strips the drama from disruption Impact: Classroom management issues disappear when adults stop being more entertaining than the lesson Quotable Ruckus "If I can't draw a very clear line between what I'm doing as a teacher and improving student success, then I'm not going to do it. I just started throwing things out." – Mitch Weathers Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement these ideas? Start here: Tomorrow: Identify one "urgent" district task and ask: "Has anyone ever followed up on this or used it to guide actual school operations?" This Month: Replace one homework assignment with in-class learning logs where students reflect on their understanding This Semester: Practice emotional deflection — when someone tries to trigger you, respond with calm curiosity instead of defensiveness Connect & Continue 🎯 Get the full episode transcript: [Link] 🔗 Follow Mitch Weathers: LinkedIn 📖 Get his book: Executive Functions for Every Classroom 🎙️ More Red Hat Rebellion: adorableredhats.com 📌 Ruckus Makers Don't Just Listen — They Act If education ain't a bit disruptive, then what are your students really learning? This show isn't about doing school better. It's about Doing School Different — and joining a growing movement of bold, creative school leaders who reject legacy models and reimagine what's possible. 🧠 Here are four ways we can help you on your Do School Different journey 📬 Subscribe to the Free Newsletter — An opportunity to Do School Different 3x a week. Tools, mindset shifts, and strategies that actually work: ruckusmakers.news 🗞️ Read Ruckus Makers — Exclusive content on Substack. Premium leadership insights, AI prompts and custom gpts, new books before the bookshelf. ruckusmakers.media 💥 Join The Ruckus Maker Club — Our private network + workshops, The Automatic School tools, AI Prompt Library, and more: ruckusmakers.club 🧨 Apply to the Mastermind — Weekly coaching, peer mentorship, and our proven leadership system (The Ruckus Maker Flywheel) to help you transform your campus: Apply Now Every tool, community, and coaching program we offer is built to help visionary school leaders play the new game — one where leadership is creative, tech-enabled, and unapologetically student-centered. 🎙️ The podcast is your starting point. The movement is just getting started. Do you Subscribe to the Ruckus Maker Newsletter? Do School Different 3x a Week. ✉ Join for FREE: here Today's RUCKUScast in Partnership with: IXL Meet your students where they are and take them where they need to go. Join over 1 million teachers who trust IXL to drive data-informed excellence in their classrooms. 🔍 Learn more: ixl.com/leaders The Ruckus Maker Club Community beats compliance every single time. The Ruckus Maker Club is your on demand network of bold school leaders designing the future of education. Join today for $100 a month and get coaching on demand courses, AI prompts and custom GPTs and all our automatic school frameworks and tools within our private digital community. 🔍 Learn more: here ODP Business Solutions "Our STEAM program is too complicated" = Code for "We're doing it wrong." Stop letting fear kill innovation. Some leaders are transforming STEAM with a three-part framework that's not what you think. 🔍 Get the playbook: here Twelve Practices LLC © 2025 | If Education Ain't a Bit Disruptive, Then What Are Your Students Learning?

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  5. Number 5: Building Trust in a System That Breaks It

    _*]:min-w-0 !gap-3.5"> The Ruckus Report Quick take: The most dangerous myth in school leadership is that problems will eventually stop. Jennifer Schwanke reveals how embracing challenges and shifting from "trustworthy" to "trust willing" transforms toxic school cultures into thriving communities. Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker Jennifer Schwanke, Ed.D., brings nearly three decades of experience to the field of education, having served as both a teacher and leader across all levels. She is a published author with ASCD, including four current books and a forthcoming fifth title, "Trusted: Trust Pillars, Trust Killers, and the Secret to Successful Schools," expected in the summer of 2025. In addition to her books, Jennifer has contributed hundreds of articles to numerous educational publications. She is actively involved in professional development, offering her expertise to school districts in areas such as school climate, personnel management, and instructional leadership. She is also a frequent presenter at major educational conferences, including those hosted by ASCD, NAESP, NASSP, AASA, and various state and national organizations. Jennifer shares her insights as the co-host of the widely listened-to "Principal Matters" podcast and as an instructor in educational administration at The Ohio State University. Currently, Dr. Schwanke serves as a Deputy Superintendent in Ohio. Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 In this episode, Jennifer Schwanke challenges traditional education paradigms: Key Insight #1: Problems Are Life, Not Obstacles What's broken: Leaders waiting for a stress-free summit where all problems disappear The shift: Embrace problems as opportunities to do meaningful work and stay sharp Impact: Leaders stop burning out waiting for calm seas and start building resilience through challenge Key Insight #2: Trust Willing vs. Trustworthy Leadership What's broken: Focusing only on being trustworthy while micromanaging and speaking in deficit language about staff and students The shift: Become "trust willing" by believing in your people, letting them do their trained work, and focusing on your zone of influence Impact: Collective efficacy emerges as teams believe their daily work actually matters and makes a difference Key Insight #3: Lead Around the 2% What's broken: Spending 98% of energy on the 2% of toxic people who will never change The shift: Set clear boundaries professionally, then invest energy in the majority who want to do good work Impact: The 98% gain respect and momentum while toxic behaviors lose their power to derail the mission Quotable Ruckus "When you run out of problems, you're dead. You want problems to come because you want to solve them, because not only does that keep you alive and sharp, but it allows you to do the good you want in the world." – Jennifer Schwanke Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement these ideas? Start here: Tomorrow: Identify one "emergency" you're treating that could benefit from a 24-48 hour pause This Month: Practice "trust willing" leadership by letting one capable team member handle something you usually micromanage This Semester: Conduct your own "proflection" — identify which trust pillars you're building vs. trust killers you need to eliminate Connect & Continue 🎯 Get the full episode transcript: here 🔗 Follow Jennifer Schwanke: LinkedIn | Instagram 📚 Jennifer's Books: You're the Principal! Now What? | The Principal Reboot | The Teacher's Principal | The Principal's Guide to Conflict Management 🎙️ Co-host of Principal Matters Podcast 💥 Join the Ruckus Maker Movement: https://ruckusmakers.club/join 📌 Ruckus Makers Don't Just Listen — They Act If education ain't a bit disruptive, then what are your students really learning? This show isn't about doing school better. It's about Doing School Different — and joining a growing movement of bold, creative school leaders who reject legacy models and reimagine what's possible. 🧠 Here are four ways we can help you on your Do School Different journey 📬 Subscribe to the Free Newsletter — An opportunity to Do School Different 3x a week. Tools, mindset shifts, and strategies that actually work: ruckusmakers.news 🗞️ Read Ruckus Makers — Exclusive content on Substack. Premium leadership insights, AI prompts and custom gpts, new books before the bookshelf. ruckusmakers.media 💥 Join The Ruckus Maker Club — Our private network + workshops, The Automatic School tools, AI Prompt Library, and more: ruckusmakers.club 🧨 Apply to the Mastermind — Weekly coaching, peer mentorship, and our proven leadership system (The Ruckus Maker Flywheel) to help you transform your campus: Apply Now Every tool, community, and coaching program we offer is built to help visionary school leaders play the new game — one where leadership is creative, tech-enabled, and unapologetically student-centered. 🎙️ The podcast is your starting point. The movement is just getting started. Do you Subscribe to the Ruckus Maker Newsletter? Do School Different 3x a Week. ✉ Join for FREE: here Today's RUCKUScast in Partnership with: IXL Meet your students where they are and take them where they need to go. Join over 1 million teachers who trust IXL to drive data-informed excellence in their classrooms. 🔍 Learn more: here The Ruckus Maker Club Community beats compliance every single time. The Ruckus Maker Club is your on demand network of bold school leaders designing the future of education. Join today for $100 a month and get coaching on demand courses, AI prompts and custom GPTs and all our automatic school frameworks and tools within our private digital community. 🔍 Learn more: here ODP Business Solutions "Our STEAM program is too complicated" = Code for "We're doing it wrong." Stop letting fear kill innovation. Some leaders are transforming STEAM with a three-part framework that's not what you think. 🔍 Get the playbook: :here Twelve Practices LLC © 2025 | If Education Ain't a Bit Disruptive, Then What Are Your Students Learning?

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