How to make social media videos that people want to watch with Allison Puryear: Show Notes
Psychologists and therapists need an online presence and a great way of communicating what we do is through video. It is not always easy to feel confident on video on social media. Allison Puryear shows us how we can entertain and educate in our videos.
Allison Puryear is a therapist specialising in eating disorders and anxiety in the US who also owns a practice building community called the Abundance party. As you can tell from the name of her community Allison doesn’t create generic, boring content to promote her practice building business or her therapy services. She is a master at being authentic and, frankly, interesting online and I am really pleased that she is here to talk to us today about how you can use video, in an exciting way, to stand out on social media.
The highlights:
- Allison tells us about what she does and why, stemming from her own experiences with eating disorders and private practice 01:15
- I explain that my passion for putting content out there is because I know how difficult it is to access mental health services 03:16
- Allison takes us through the reasons why it is a good idea for us to make video for social media 04:10
- Allison talks about why we should vet our reasons if we are reluctant to make videos 07:05
- Allison takes us through the common mistakes, beginning with getting hung up on our appearance 10:04
- Allison talks about the mistakes of not preparing enough or overpreparing 12:41
- We discuss live videos and the danger of over-editing 14:00
- Allison talks about the mistaken belief that we need fancy tech to make videos, and how we put things in the way because we are afraid of starting 16:30
- Allison tells us that the only thing a good video needs to have is great content, and what makes great content 18:56
- We discuss needing to serve what the client sees as the problem, and how you have to market to the real life situation rather than the psychological formulation 20:14
- Allison gives us her top tips for making video interesting to look at, beginning with dialling up your energy 23:47
- We talk about how exposure to yourself on video can help 26:21
- Allison suggests blocking your view of your face if that’s a hang up, as it’s about what we’re saying, not what we look like 29:08
- Allison talks about her tips for batch recording, and why it can reduce the pressure 30:19
- Allison gives advice for improving reach and encouraging engagement 33:29
Links to find Allison:
Allison’s Therapy services: https://www.allisonpuryear.com/
Abundance party: https://www.abundanceparty.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/abundancepracticebuilding
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abundance_practice_building/
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Transcript of the interview
How to make social media videos that people want to watch with Allison Puryear - Transcript
Rosie 0:01
Welcome to the Business of Psychology podcast, the show that helps you to reach more people, help more people, and build the life you want to live by doing more than therapy. Today, I'm talking to Allison Puryear. So Alison is a therapist specialising in eating disorders and anxiety over in the US. But she also owns a practice building community called the Abundance Party. And as you can tell from the name of her community, Alison does not create generic boring content to promote her practice building business, or her therapy services. She's a master at being authentic, and frankly, interesting online. And I'm really pleased that she's here to talk to us today about how you can use video in an exciting way to stand out on social media. Welcome to the podcast Allison.
Allison 0:52
Thanks so much for having me. That was like the nicest intro anybody's ever given of me, thank you.
Rosie 0:57
Well, I really want people to go and follow you to be honest, because your video presence really inspires me. And even on your landing page for the Abundance Party, you've got a really cool video there too. So I think there's a lot that my people can learn. And I'm really excited to introduce them to you. So why don't we start with you telling us a bit about what you do and why you do it?
Allison 1:20
Yeah, absolutely. So there's this parallel process with my work as an eating disorder therapist, to be honest with you. When I first I was in college, I'd had an eating disorder for, I don't know, eight years, like since early adolescence. And when I went through recovery, I was like, Oh, this is available, like being at peace and not being stressed out about it and like enjoying my actual life is available to me. I didn't realise. And then I was like a recovery proselytiser. Right. I was like, everybody needs recovery. Did you know life is so good over here. And so I was already in school to become a therapist at that point, and so that's when I went through the process, became an eating disorder therapist. Well, fast forward several years, and I had the same exact experience going into private practice, this sense of like, oh, whoa, you mean, I can actually afford to go on vacations, and take yoga classes, and see fewer people, and work with people who want to be there that I do great work with, that's available to me? And so then I became like a non paid private practice proselytiser, and I kind of like, gently bullied my friends into private practice and helped them build. And then fast forward and I was realising like, there are so many amazing therapists, many of whom will leave the profession at some point, because they're burned out, because they're working in places that don't value them. And that's made apparent in so many different ways. And I don't want that to happen, because we need more therapists in the world, not fewer. So because I think private practice is just the best thing in the world, I want everybody who wants access to private practice to access it. So that's how abundance practice building was born. And it's been an awesome ride for the last several years.
Rosie 3:16
I love that story. And I relate to it as well, because I think definitely my passion for doing anything on social media, because I'm not an extrovert at all, you can probably tell, I'm quite shy, bit of an introvert, but the reason I bother putting any of that stuff out there and have done is because I know firsthand how difficult it was to access mental health services. I know how scary it was, I know that I couldn't see anybody that I could relate to. And so I didn't realise that it was available to me to see somebody who might be nice and friendly. I just had no concept of any of that. So that's very much where my interest in social media started. And similar to you, the reason I started helping other psychologists and therapists is because kind of going through that hellish burn out at the beginning of my practice and coming out the other side and finding something better. It's just transformative, isn't it?
Allison 4:08
Yeah, absolutely.
Rosie 4:09
So powerful. So then thinking about video, why would psychologists and therapists bother making video for social media?
Allison 4:19
Yeah, so I want to say first, you don't have to, like I want to give anybody who's listening whose stomach is churning, just thinking about it, permission to like, maybe keep listening just for fun, maybe to give a friend a tip or something, but like no pressure, if this is not a good fit for you. But the reason, I want you to vet the reasons that it's not a good fit for you, and we'll talk about that some. But the reasons to include video is like, we get to know people so much better. It's similar to podcasts, right? We both have podcasts, people probably tell you all the time, I feel like I know you because they've listened to so many podcasts of yours. And so it just takes that up a whole other level. Because not only do they hear your voice, they see your face, they see your expressions and mannerisms. I mean, we all get connected to TV characters sometimes. And so it kind of allows us to get known on a deeper level by our potential clients. But it's a way that you can kind of control it such that you're the one creating the content. So you and I spoke on my podcast about self disclosure and your marketing. And so since you're coming at that from the very mindful way that Rosie talks about, your videos can be connecting, but also to have enough distance that it's not like you're a reality TV star or some mess like that. So that's, I would say, that's the primary reason is it gives our potential clients the opportunity to get to know us better to see if we're a fit or not. Social media also prefers video, they're gonna show your stuff to more people if it's a real or an IGTV, or a video that you've posted. So not only does it broaden your potential client base, it also helps them opt in or opt out of whether they want to continue to get to know you.
Rosie 6:11
I love that because I think one thing we can be really frightened of at the beginning in our practices is alienating some people. And I think that the fact is, when you get out on video, you do show your personality, and not everyone is going to want you as a therapist.
Allison 6:26
Yeah, yeah. And that's so good. Yeah, that's a great thing. Because we will all refer out more people than we could ever see over the course of our private practices. And so we want to make sure that the people calling us are truly good fits.
Rosie 6:41
And I couldn't agree more with that. I think you've got to feel okay with the fact that some people will walk away. And that's brilliant, because you probably wouldn't have been able to help them. Because you'd annoy them. Right? You're not going to transform into some other person, you're going to be you. And if they don't like you, then therapy with you would not go well for them. Probably.
Allison 7:02
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Rosie 7:04
That's really hard. So you mentioned kind of vetting the reasons why you think video is not a good fit for you. Can you talk a bit more on that?
Allison 7:12
Yeah, so I think that a lot of people will be like, not doing video after they try once or twice, or even five times. Because the truth of the matter is none of us are that great video at first. I actually created some videos, I was doing a launch for my practice building business years ago. And I created videos for the first time. I like, my dad is a amateur photographer as I borrowed all his lighting, and I set things up and I was like in full, like full makeup for me is not actually a lot of makeup, but for me full makeup. I had like carefully selected shirts, I was like ready to go. And I showed up on video as you guys can probably hear I’m a very animated energetic person. I showed up on video like, 'Hello, my name is Alison Puryear, from abundance practice building'. Like I wasn't breathing. I was like, clearly nervous. There's something about that, like camera going on, and my personality shrank. And I was just this like cardboard cutout of myself. And I had this mastermind group that I love. And one of my buddies who was always so brutally honest, they were like, oh, show us, show us a clip of the videos, you're always so hard on yourself, like just show us, I'm sure it's fine. And I showed like 30 seconds. And she's like, you can't use that. Like, oh my gosh, it was, I appreciated her honesty. But I mean, I had practised those videos, like it was like three videos and it's spent, I spent all day trying to get them less awful. And I never got there. But I, the launch plan I had required videos. So what I ended up doing is sending out emails to some of my friends and colleagues in town and I said, Hey, this was obviously way pre pandemic, but I was like, Hey, I'm teaching these things I need some people to talk to because apparently I can't just talk to my camera. So would you just come and sit in my office and let me teach you some things about practice building. And these were people who were like on the waitlist for my group and some people who'd been in my group. And so it was, it was an audience that cared about what I had to say. And when they were sitting there in my cramped little office with like, six people, I was able to actually show up on video in a way that I definitely couldn't have. Even if I tried for another week with just me and my camera. I kind of had to like break the ice for myself and prove to myself I could do video.
Rosie 9:41
That is an amazing tip. Because I think a lot of people find it a lot easier talking to a real person than they do their webcam. And when I think about the best videos that I've done, it has been interview style, talking to somebody who's into what you're passionate about then. Rather than just being in your head thinking about, oh, what are my teeth looking like, for me it’s always teeth.
Allison 10:04
Right teeth. Interesting, because that's not anything I would have noticed about you. And that is I mean, we can kind of go into some of the common mistakes, because you just opened the door to one of the big ones. It's just that we're so hard on ourselves. And we are not, maybe now we're more used to looking at ourselves on video because of all the telehealth we've been doing, but we're not accustomed to seeing the way we move. Like I never realised I kind of talk a little bit out of the sight of my mouth, not figuratively, but literally, I talk out of the side of my mouth, it's not right in the middle. And I didn't know that until I started doing videos. And at first I was like, Oh, god, it's so, I need to correct that. But I couldn't correct that and concentrate on what I was saying at the same time. And so a lot of us get hung up on what we look like on camera. I mean, eating disorder therapists, like I talk all the time about being neutral about our appearance, but initially, I was like, Oh my god, I never realised I was so ugly when I talk. And now I'm like, whatever. Like, I have never in my life looked like a supermodel. And it's not going to just magically happen when I'm talking about practice building content or things that my therapy clients need to hear. That's all right. And once I was able to let go of that judgement, I was also able to be more of myself on camera, because I wasn't like, keep your chin in the middle. And like, you know, think about where your nose is, when you talk, I just, I was able to be present to the content that my people actually care about. Because y'all they don't care what you look like. They really don't, as long as like you're not on the extreme. Sometimes I get distracted if somebody has like 533 eyelashes like those really big, bushy, fake eyelashes. Sometimes I'm like, I don't even know what you're saying, because I'm just like mesmerised by when you blink what happens. But, if your ideal client also has mesmerising eyelashes, then by all means, like have them, be you if that's you. But for me, I couldn't be present. If I was thinking about the way I looked. I also couldn't be present if I was judging myself as I was doing it. If I was like, I just tripped over my words, what an idiot, I sound like a fool. Obviously, the rest of that video is going to go downhill. But the truth of the matter is our clients don't need us to be perfect orators. They need us to talk about the things they care about. And if we stumble over words, that doesn't take away from the fact that we know what we're talking about. So much of this is like getting out of our own way, right? I'd say another big mistake I see is either not preparing enough or over preparing. So for a while, and I invite everybody to play with this for a while, I would just do bullet points. As I’ve probably already done in this podcast, I say like and um and er, and I have my filler words. And I've gotten over the fact that I'm going to use filler words on podcasts and videos, because I'm a human being and that's what happens. Um, and see, there we go; Um. If people are gonna judge me for that, then maybe we're not a great fit anyway. So I would have bullet points. And there would be a lot of ums and likes and things like that, because I would just shoot from the hip from my bullet points. Then, once my, a lot of my videos are sponsored, so I felt like well, I should bring a new level of professionalism, since I'm getting paid for these videos at this point. Well, then I started scripting them. And I had to really pay attention to my voice because sometimes when I'm reading a script, it's really obvious. I'm like, "Welcome to abundance practice building. I'm Allison Puryear". That's not me, that's me being a cardboard cutout again, so I have to like, bring some energy to it. Um.
Rosie 14:00
Yeah, I think that's really hard, actually. Because I usually recommend to people starting out, and they hate me when I say it, but I usually recommend doing your videos live because of that, because otherwise, you're going to go back and edit out all the ums and the ahs. And those are the things that make it possible for somebody to listen to you. Can you imagine, and I have done actually, listening to a podcast where somebody has edited out every um, and every ah. It just is relentless....