Walk into a CrossFit box at 6 a.m. and you'll see men doing more than chasing a workout PR. According to men's coach and ex-pastor Jason Lyle, they're doing therapy without calling it that. On this episode of the Men's Therapy Podcast, host Marc Azoulay sits down with Jason, who spent ten years owning a CrossFit gym and now runs Sacred Grit, a men's coaching practice built around retreats, nervous system work, and one very cold morning ritual.

The conversation unpacks why modern comfort has left men's nervous systems overloaded and under-challenged, and why hard physical practices like CrossFit, cold water immersion, and breathwork aren't really about fitness at all, they're about teaching the body how to stay regulated under stress. Jason walks through the biology of the amygdala hijack, why men can run a hundred-mile trail race but freeze up in a hard conversation with their partner, and why regulation without honest self-examination just becomes another way to avoid the real work. It closes with Jason's take on where masculinity goes from here, and why he thinks accountability and honesty, not apology, are what get men there.

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Website: https://thesacredgrit.com/

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Resources Mentioned

The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter: https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Crisis-Embrace-Discomfort-Reclaim/dp/0593138767

Wild at Heart by John Eldredge: https://www.amazon.com/Wild-Heart-Revised-Updated-Discovering/dp/1400200393

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