Ready for a fresh, honest take on scaling your business? 

My friend Michelle Vroom recently had me as a guest on a live she hosted in her Facebook group, and it was such a fun conversation I wanted to bring it to you on the podcast. 

On this episode, we dig deep into the realities of scaling that most business owners aren’t talking about. We get real about the highs, lows, and “aha” moments we’ve each had both scaling and unscaling our businesses, and shed light on the pressures and the pivotal choices that come with growth. We also talk about why scaling is not a “one size fits all” journey, and the shifts we’ve each made to find alignment and simplicity in our own ways.

You will learn:

• The unseen pressures and realities of scaling that most online entrepreneurs face.
• Key signs it might be time to pivot your business model.
• How to create a business that fits your life (and not the other way around).
• Why relationship marketing and high-touch offers might be the next big things in 2025.
• The truth about mindset work and why it’s only part of the business building equation.

This is a candid conversation about the behind-the-scenes of building a successful business and navigating the unexpected costs – both financial and personal – of getting to the top. If you want to hear our unfiltered truths about scaling and how you can create a business that truly supports you, don't miss this episode!

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