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Last week Dr. Smeaton and Dr. Pizzorno covered the science behind environmental toxins and how they affect our hormones. This week, they discuss how to avoid these toxins through lifestyle adjustments, treatment, and other methods.  

Environmental toxin avoidance recommendations from Dr. Pizzorno

• Avoidance, avoidance, avoidance 
• Eat organic 
• Heirloom seeds for growing your own food 
• Whole-house water filtration 
• Whole-house air filtration 
• Sauna weekly to sweat out toxins 
• Increase fiber intake 
• More avoidance! 

Listen now to hear the details of these recommendations and catch last week’s episode with Dr. Pizzorno wherever you get your podcasts. 

Sections and Timestamps 

• 00:00Intro 
• 01:28Everyone has measurable exposure to BPA 
• 04:12You CAN reduce your toxic load through lifestyle adjustments 
• 06:16Supplements can only supplement a fantastic diet 
• 09:00Persistent vs non-persistent compounds 
• 10:18Water, air, and food 
• 13:44Unimportant molecules and heirloom seeds 
• 18:17Plant-based foods and animal products 
• 21:00Sweating toxins out 
• 23:10Increasing fiber intake to detoxify 
• 27:30 Conclusion

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The natural medicine community has long benefited from the leadership of this week’s guest. Dr. Joseph Pizzorno has been practicing natural medicine for more than 40 years. He is an author, educator, and top-notch provider, and his bread and butter is studying environmental toxins. 

In this episode, Dr. Pizzorno and Dr. Smeaton discuss perchlorates and bisphenols, two prevalent environmental toxins that affect thyroid function. They also talk about the sneaky ways these toxins can show up in everyday life. 

This is part one of a two-part interview with Dr. Pizzorno. Stay tuned for more from him and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton next week to hear about other toxins in our environment and how to avoid them. 

Timestamps and Sections 

• 00:00Intro 
• 02:15What sparked Dr. Pizzorno’s interest in environmental toxicology 
• 07:56How does the impact of environmental toxins compare to diet in the diabetes epidemic? 
• 09:30High toxic load increases risk of diabetes 
• 11:20Herbicides are a culprit 
• 14:28Perchlorate levels are inversely proportionate to thyroid hormone levels 
• 18:18First research on bisphenols 
• 25:00How to avoid BPAs 
• 26:30Conclusion

Tips for avoiding BPAs 

• Don’t freeze or heat food in plastic containers 
• BPA free canned food 
• Avoid heat sensitive paper (receipt paper) 
• Avoid disposable coffee cups 

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Fasting and female hormones, this podcast has it all. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, interviews world-renowned hormone expert, Dr. Mindy Pelz, on the topic of intermittent fasting. Dr. Pelz dives into the unique role that fasting can play in hormone health, and shares tips on fasting for perimenopause. 

Women need to fast differently than men. Dr. Pelz explains the cycle of fasting that correlates with a woman’s menstrual cycle for optimal fasting and hormone success. Women can experience better sleep, and fewer perimenopausal symptoms when fasting appropriately. Don’t sleep on this episode, there is so much to learn! 

Sections and Time Stamps 

• 00:00 - Intro 
• 02:51 - How Mindy Pelz got into fasting 
• 04:58 - What are the benefits of intermittent fasting for women? 
• 08:20 - What does fasting do to estrogen? 
• 14:30 - How do women need to do fasting differently than men? 
• 20:20 - The goal is metabolic flexibility 
• 22:05 - Fasting recommendations for perimenopause 
• 25:20 - “Fast Like a Girl” book  
• 26:28 - Conclusion

Fast Like a Girl
https://fastlikeagirl.com/ 

Mindy Pelz’s Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@DrMindyPelz 

Mindy Pelz’s Website
https://drmindypelz.com/ 

DUTCH Test 
https://dutchtest.com/ 

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Ten years after its inception, DUTCH Test founders Mark Newman and Andy Tyssen are here for our final live from A4M World Congress episode of the DUTCH Podcast. They reminisce on the origins of the DUTCH Test, the beginnings of their business, and the strides the business has made since the beginning. 

In this episode, we get to visit with some of the first DUTCH Test providers— Jeff and Lyn Holgrefe of the Happy Hormone Cottage. They talk about their introduction to DUTCH testing 10 years ago and how DUTCH has helped their patients find answers. Jeff and Lyn have shipped more than 10,000 DUTCH kits to their patients, thank you Happy Hormone Cottage! 

Precision Analytical Core Values 

https://dutchtest.com/about/ 

• We care for our people. We will ALL actively prioritize taking care of our team, clients, and community. 
• We will be transparent. We believe honest humility should characterize internal communication and how we represent our product. 
• Always advancing. Our work is never done! We are committed to continual improvement in everything we do. 

Happy Hormone Cottage 

https://happyhormonecottage.com/ 

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The Live from A4M World Congress podcast series continues with featured guest, Dr. Carrie Jones. You might recognize her from her time at Precision Analytical as the former Medical Director. In this episode, Dr. Jones shares how DUTCH and the functional medicine world have evolved to better understand the importance of hormone testing to identify and treat adrenal dysfunction. She discusses the beginnings of the DUTCH Test, and she, Jaclyn Smeaton, and Mark Newman talk about the importance of research to further evolve hormone testing.

00:00     Intro

03:55     Learning the importance of estrogen metabolism

07:35     The Stages of Stress (SOS) program

12:12     Introducing DUTCH Trust

18:29     Precision Analytical’s commitment to top-notch testing

25:00     DUTCH supports its testing in scientific literature

28:50     Conclusion

Dr. Carrie Jones 

http://www.drcarriejones.com/

LMRC Stages of Stress Program

https://www.lifestylematrix.com/clinical-programs#stress

DUTCH Research

https://dutchtest.com/research/

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In a special edition of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, joins Precision Analytical founder Mark Newman, MS, and Jeff Bland, PhD—the “father of functional medicine”—for a live Q&A session. They discuss the beginnings of the functional medicine industry and reflect on the various directions the field is taking.  

Dr. Bland and Dr. Smeaton uncover some of the barriers to a functional medicine approach. Functional medicine isn’t the same as traditional disease-state treatment. Dr. Bland suggests ways to approach these barriers with providers that don’t already practice functional medicine. 

• Philosophical barriers 
• Lack-of-proof barriers 
• Economic barriers 

Tune in to take part in this informative discussion. The Q&A session brings up important topics like the effects of COVID-19 vaccine/infection on cycling women; as well as accurately interpreting saliva hormone results for patients on hormone creams/gels. 

Plus, hear the announcement for the grand prize winner for the 10 Days of DUTCH giveaway!  

Sections and Timestamps 

• 00:00 -Intro 
• 02:07- 10 Days of DUTCH Giveaway winner announced 
• 04:10- Dr. Bland discusses the changes in functional medicine 
• 08:30- Functional medicine treats the patients that traditional medicine ignores 
• 11:45- Dr. Bland shares story from early in his career 
• 12:30- Barriers to working with patients/providers that are new to the functional medicine model 
• 16:52- Q&A Begins 
• 18:41- Is there any effect on menstrual cycles for female patients post Covid-19 vaccination? 
• 23:28- Are exaggerated testosterone levels in saliva after hormone creams/gels indicative of systemic availability? 
• 29:30- What is the value of looking at hormone metabolites? 
• 33:15- Conclusion 

Links 

Dr. Jeff Bland’s website
https://jeffreybland.com/ 

PLMI
https://plminstitute.org/ 

COVID-19 Research Referenced
https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/bmjmed/1/1/e000297.full.pdf 

Become a DUTCH Provider
https://dutchtest.com/become-a-provider

Find a DUTCH Provider
https://dutchtest.com/find-a-dutch-provider/ 

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Dr. Will Cole is the featured guest this week on the DUTCH Podcast and he and Jaclyn Smeaton, ND (DUTCH Chief Medical Officer) discuss chronic disease and its relationship to inflammation, stress, and hormone imbalances. 

Many patients with chronic disease have some HPA axis dysregulation. And the whole endocrine system is affected by poor cortisol function. Chronic stress can lead to the overproduction of cortisol, which is probably why this hormone is often labeled as “bad”. 

In reality, a cortisol increase can be seen as a marker for other issues in the body, such as chronic stress or illness. Dr. Cole and Dr. Smeaton discuss the Goldilocks principle of keeping cortisol levels “just right”.

Dr. Cole’s Favorite Lifestyle Recommendations to Support HPA Axis Function

• Holy basil
• Ashwagandha
• Lion’s mane
• Forest bathing
• Caring for spiritual needs
• Grounding 

DUTCH Plus Info Sheet
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/

DUTCH CAR (cortisol awakening response)
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/#cortisol-awakening-response

Dr. Will Cole’s website
https://drwillcole.com/

Dr. Cole’s latest book
https://drwillcole.com/gut-feelings

Find Dr. Cole on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/drwillcole/

Sections and Timestamps

00:00     Intro

04:02     Dr. Cole asks if canine patients can use the DUTCH Test?

05:10     What sparked Dr. Cole’s interest in chronic disease treatment

08:17     Hormones play a huge part in the reason a patient feels poorly

11:02     HPA axis dysregulation 

15:09     Which came first—HPA axis dysregulation or illness?

17:29     Dr. Cole’s favorite DUTCH Test biomarkers

20:57     Dr. Cole’s lifestyle recommendations to support HPA axis

24:40     Thyroid issues and functional medicine approaches

30:46     Outro

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In this episode we talk about perimenopause with our guest Esther Blum!

As an integrative dietitian and menopause expert, Esther Blum, MS, RD, CDN, CNS, has helped thousands of women navigate the metamorphosis of menopause. For too long women have been told their discomfort during perimenopause and menopause is, “just the way it is.” Esther Blum isn’t having that. She preaches the importance of self-advocacy to her clients as they navigate the often uncertain terrain of perimenopause.

Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton interviews Esther on her hormone, diet, and lifestyle approach to treating the symptoms of perimenopause. Hear her three “meno-laws” for fat loss and other tips for transitioning into menopause successfully. Download the episode and listen now!

Esther’s three “meno-laws” for fat loss

1. Optimize your protein intake
2. Protein > carb ratio
3. Carbs at night with dinner

More resources from Esther Blum

Find Esther’s books https://estherblum.com/books/

Esther Blum on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gorgeousesther/

More DUTCH resources

Learn about 10 Days of DUTCH giveaways Nov 8 - Dec 10 https://dutchtest.com/ten-days-of-dutch/

DUTCH find-a-provider tool https://dutchtest.com/find-a-dutch-provider/

Sections and Timestamps

00:00 Introductions

04:59 The metamorphosis of menopause

11:32 The importance of adrenal function during perimenopause

16:20 Carb-phobia and the therapeutic benefits of carbohydrates

18:47 DUTCH Complete cortisol curve

24:14 Esther’s three “meno-laws” for fat loss

30:30 Conclusion

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From the beginning of her career to now, Melissa Groves Azzaro has been able to profoundly change the lives of thousands of patients with the insights provided through DUTCH testing. She and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the ins and outs of DUTCH testing for PCOS and the wealth of knowledge available to providers through the DUTCH website. Listen now! 

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PCOS is not just a reproductive disorder. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, examines the nuances of PCOS with Melissa Groves Azzaro, founder of The Hormone Dietitian. They explain the possible root causes of PCOS and discuss a whole-body approach to treating this disease state. Their discussion is fascinating, listen now!