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This episode of Art of the Brand is a reality check for every founder, creator, and high-performer who's feeling stuck—even when they’re doing everything right.
Fresh off a teaching trip to Austria, Camille and Phillip reflect on the lessons learned from working with world-class classical musicians—people who practice 8 hours a day but still feel like they’re not good enough to share their work. We draw parallels between that perfectionism and what’s holding creators, professionals, and business owners back from showing up online.
From the collapse of branding at Skims and American Eagle, to why Netflix movies are getting worse, to the emotional sabotage of comment sections and copycat culture, this is a wide-ranging conversation about truth, strategy, and what it really means to build something that lasts.
This one is for anyone who’s putting in the work but still afraid to hit “post.”
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This episode of Art of the Brand is a reality check for every founder, creator, and high-performer who's feeling stuck—even when they’re doing everything right.
Fresh off a teaching trip to Austria, Camille and Phillip reflect on the lessons learned from working with world-class classical musicians—people who practice 8 hours a day but still feel like they’re not good enough to share their work. We draw parallels between that perfectionism and what’s holding creators, professionals, and business owners back from showing up online.
From the collapse of branding at Skims and American Eagle, to why Netflix movies are getting worse, to the emotional sabotage of comment sections and copycat culture, this is a wide-ranging conversation about truth, strategy, and what it really means to build something that lasts.
This one is for anyone who’s putting in the work but still afraid to hit “post.”

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