The Job Hunting Podcast

The First Plan is the Worst Plan: Cassandra Goodman Interviews Renata Bernarde (Ep 215)


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Many of you already know and love Cassie Goodman, a frequent guest on our podcast. Her insights, wisdom, and approach to career development have resonated with so many of you. If you haven't yet, I urge you to listen to her previous episodes linked below – they're packed with valuable insights! Recently, Cassie embarked on her podcasting journey with her show, "True Power" available on Apple and Spotify. Her inaugural episode is a must-listen – it's a mind-blowing conversation with Jasmine Malki (or is that her real name?). I'm still reeling from the impact of that episode and I'm sure you will be too.

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Timestamps to guide your listening:

  • 06:42- When I wasn't true to myself
  • 08:26 - Why first plans are the worst plans
  • 13:41 - The importance of knowing your talents
  • 20:03 - How to explain your talents and deal with criticism
  • 25:59 - Being happy when you're doing what you’re meant to do  

Links mentioned in this episode:

  • Episode 175 - Be true to yourself at work in a skillful, brave, and kind way, interview with Cassandra Goodman
  • Episode 59 - The power of self-fidelity: How to be true to yourself and thrive professionally - with Author Cassandra Goodman
  • Find My Talents Service - TalentPredix
  • Subscribe to The Job Hunting Newsletter 
  • Cassandra Goodman's Podcast, True Power  

About the host, Renata Bernarde

Hello, I'm Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I'm also an executive coach, job-hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach corporate, non-profit, and public professionals the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress. 

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