Cass sits down with Dr Gwen Adshead, one of Britain's leading forensic psychiatrists who has spent 30 years providing therapy to violent criminals including killers, arsonists, stalkers, gang members and those who are normally labelled as 'monsters'.

Gwen discusses the role of early childhood trauma in later violent crime, the devastating consequences of cutting funding to public mental health services, and she makes a compelling case that in the right circumstances, we all have within us the capacity for acts of cruelty.

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