The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

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The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments episodes

November 13, 2024Zelda Perkins; (video) The Legal Battle Against Harvey Weinstein and NDAs
Zelda Perkins was the first woman to break an NDA in 2017, signed decades earlier, with Harvey Weinstein. She brought the systematic abuse of NDA’s to the attention of the British Government and international press, giving evidence at two parliamentary inquiries, which uncovered an epidemic of misuse, and pushed the Solicitors Regulatory Authority to take disciplinary action against the lawyer who created the NDA for Weinstein. Her actions have been inspiring others to come forward by her example. She has been campaigning for legislative and regulatory reform in the UK since 2017 and launched the Global campaign Can’t Buy My Silence cantbuymysilence.com with Canadian Co Founder, Professor Julie Macfarlane in September 2021. They are working with Government in the UK, the Republic of Ireland, Canada and Australia to change legislation and regulation around the misuse of NDA’s. They have had legislative success in the UK, Ireland and Canada with the first laws of their kind banning NDAs being passed in all three countries, however there is still a long way to go. Zelda was named a Person of the Year by Time magazine in 2018, by the Guardian in 2020 and in 2023 awarded for her Outstanding Contribution to Gender Equality by UN Women UK. Her character was portrayed by Samantha Morton in the Universal Pictures feature “She Said” documenting her part in the downfall of Weinstein.

keywords
Zelda Perkins, Harvey Weinstein, NDAs, workplace harassment, power dynamics, legal challenges, justice, settlements, advocacy, gender equality, cultural change, power dynamics, non-disclosure agreements, emotional toll, moral injury, advocacy, self-care, trauma, accountability, legislation
summary
In this conversation David and Naomi speak with Zelda Perkins, a prominent figure in the fight against the misuse of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) following her experience with Harvey Weinstein. Zelda shares her journey from working at Miramax Films to co-founding the organization Can't Buy My Silence, highlighting the systemic issues of power dynamics, the challenges of seeking justice, and the emotional toll of legal negotiations. The conversation delves into the broader implications of these issues in various workplaces and the ongoing advocacy for legislative change to protect victims. In this conversation they discuss the cultural changes needed to address power dynamics, particularly in relation to non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) and their emotional toll on individuals. They emphasize the importance of accountability and the need for a shift in societal attitudes towards power and abuse. The discussion also highlights the concept of moral injury, the challenges faced by those under NDAs, and the ongoing campaign to reform the use of these agreements.
takeaways
Zelda Perkins broke her NDA with Harvey Weinstein, sparking a movement against NDA misuse.
The legal system often fails victims of harassment and abuse.
Power dynamics in the workplace can lead to exploitation, especially for women.
Money in settlements can complicate the pursuit of justice.
The emotional toll of legal negotiations can be profound and disorienting.
Victims often feel responsible for the actions of their abusers.
The culture of silence around abuse needs to be challenged.
Advocacy for legislative change is crucial to protect victims.
The experience of being treated as 'girls' highlights the gender dynamics in legal settings.
Zelda's journey emphasizes the importance of resilience and personal growth in the face of adversity. Cultural change is essential to address power dynamics.
The law must evolve to protect individuals from abuse.
NDAs can serve legitimate purposes but are often misused.
The emotional toll of NDAs can be profound and lasting.
Moral injury is a significant consequence of being silenced.
Fear of legal repercussions can prevent individuals from speaking out.
Truth is a powerful tool against oppression.
Victims should have control over confidentiality agreements.
Advocacy requires self-care and boundaries.
Public awareness is crucial for cultural change.
1 hr 13 min
November 06, 2024 Mark Stibbe (Audio) •Understanding Shame and Attachment in Childhood
In this powerful and poignant conversation, Mark Stibbe shares his profound journey from a challenging early life marked by adoption and separation to his experiences in boarding school, where he faced emotional and physical challenges. He discusses the impact of shame and attachment issues stemming from his childhood, the complexities of relationships, and the vulnerability that led to experiences of abuse. Mark reflects on his disillusionment with organized religion and the transformative power of writing as a therapeutic tool in his healing process. His story is one of resilience, the search for love, and the quest for understanding and forgiveness.
https://www.markstibbe.com/
Chapters
00:00Mark Stibbe's Early Life and Adoption Journey
03:05The Impact of Shame and Attachment Issues
06:17Boarding School Experience and Second Orphaning
08:59The Role of Pets in Childhood Attachment
11:48Resilience and the Absence of Unconditional Love
14:35Vulnerability to Abuse and the Complexity of Relationships
17:33The Effects of Sexual Abuse and Guilt
20:51Navigating the Aftermath of Abuse
23:44The Need for Healing and Understanding
33:40Understanding Guilt and Isolation in Abuse
37:31The Impact of Misbeliefs and Myths on Sexuality
40:42The Role of Family Secrets in Healing
51:06Faith and Spirituality: A Personal Journey
58:08The Hypocrisy of Religious Figures and Abuse
01:02:35The Therapeutic Power of Writing and Storytelling
01:06:37Outro Oct 23 2.mp4
1 hr 8 min
November 06, 2024 Mark Stibbe (Video) •Understanding Shame and Attachment in Childhood
In this conversation the author, Mark Stibbe shares his profound journey from a challenging early life marked by adoption and separation to his experiences in boarding school, where he faced emotional and physical challenges. He discusses the impact of shame and attachment issues stemming from his childhood, the complexities of relationships, and the vulnerability that led to experiences of abuse. Mark reflects on his disillusionment with organized religion and the transformative power of writing as a therapeutic tool in his healing process. His story is one of resilience, the search for love, and the quest for understanding and forgiveness.
https://www.markstibbe.com/
Chapters
00:00Mark Stibbe's Early Life and Adoption Journey
03:05The Impact of Shame and Attachment Issues
06:17Boarding School Experience and Second Orphaning
08:59The Role of Pets in Childhood Attachment
11:48Resilience and the Absence of Unconditional Love
14:35Vulnerability to Abuse and the Complexity of Relationships
17:33The Effects of Sexual Abuse and Guilt
20:51Navigating the Aftermath of Abuse
23:44The Need for Healing and Understanding
33:40Understanding Guilt and Isolation in Abuse
37:31The Impact of Misbeliefs and Myths on Sexuality
40:42The Role of Family Secrets in Healing
51:06Faith and Spirituality: A Personal Journey
58:08The Hypocrisy of Religious Figures and Abuse
01:02:35The Therapeutic Power of Writing and Storytelling

1 hr 8 min
October 30, 2024 Steve Chalke (video); The incredible development of Oasis with homelessness, education and youth justice.
In this conversation, Steve Chalke discusses the ethos and values of Oasis, (not the pop group) the organization he founded to alleviate poverty and support marginalized communities. He shares his personal journey, the challenges he faced, and the vision behind Oasis, emphasizing the importance of inclusion, understanding, and rehabilitation in society. Chalke highlights innovative approaches to youth justice, particularly through the Oasis Restore project, which aims to provide therapeutic care rather than punishment for young offenders. The discussion also touches on the significance of creating opportunities for young people and the role of accountability and leadership in charitable organizations.
Check out the links below to learn more about their work with youth justice, homelessness, education and much more.
https://www.oasisrestore.org/
https://www.oasisuk.org/
https://www.oasiscommunityhousing.org/

Author, speaker, TV and radio presenter, businessman, social entrepreneur, husband and father, Rev Steve Chalke MBE began public life as a Baptist Minister being ordained in 1981.
In 1985 he founded the Oasis Charitable Trust with a vision to build inclusive communities, where everyone has hope, feels that they matter and is given the opportunity to achieve their God-given potential. Oasis pioneers life-transforming housing, healthcare, education, church, and youth and community initiatives across the UK and the world.
Oasis works in ‘community hubs’ to provide a range of integrated and high quality services that support people holistically; educationally, physically, socially, spiritually, emotionally, economically and environmentally.
Steve has inspired numerous key initiatives in Oasis, which retain his involvement, including:
• Oasis College of Higher Education in London, in partnership with Staffordshire University, is committed to equipping and resourcing students with the skills, knowledge and understanding to improve the quality of life for their families and communities;
• Oasis Community Learning, has opened over 40 primary, secondary and all-through schools around the UK, and is committed to education and holistic community regeneration;
• Oasis Church in Waterloo, London, the first of a new network of UK churches which includes others in Bristol, Croydon, Enfield, Grimsby, Salford and Southampton;
• Stop The Traffik, a global coalition working in nearly 100 countries and with tens of thousands of activists around the world campaigning to end people trafficking. Steve was a United Nations Special Adviser for community action against human trafficking;
• People’s Parliament, which creates a place of debate, discussion, interaction and partnership for voluntary organisations with the aim of building more effective relationships between the government and the third sector.
In 2018, Rev Steve Chalke received the Spirit of London Award for the most amount of money raised for charity by an individual at the London Marathon, when he completed the 2011 race. He raised an incredible £2,330,159.38 for the Oasis UK charity.
1 hr 3 min
October 30, 2024 Steve Chalke (audio) Steve Chalke (video); The incredible development of Oasis with homelessness, education and youth justice
In this conversation, Steve Chalke discusses the ethos and values of Oasis, (not the pop group) the organization he founded to alleviate poverty and support marginalized communities. He shares his personal journey, the challenges he faced, and the vision behind Oasis, emphasizing the importance of inclusion, understanding, and rehabilitation in society. Chalke highlights innovative approaches to youth justice, particularly through the Oasis Restore project, which aims to provide therapeutic care rather than punishment for young offenders. The discussion also touches on the significance of creating opportunities for young people and the role of accountability and leadership in charitable organizations.
Check out the links below to learn more about their work with youth justice, homelessness, education and much more.
https://www.oasisrestore.org/
https://www.oasisuk.org/
https://www.oasiscommunityhousing.org/

Author, speaker, TV and radio presenter, businessman, social entrepreneur, husband and father, Rev Steve Chalke MBE began public life as a Baptist Minister being ordained in 1981.
In 1985 he founded the Oasis Charitable Trust with a vision to build inclusive communities, where everyone has hope, feels that they matter and is given the opportunity to achieve their God-given potential. Oasis pioneers life-transforming housing, healthcare, education, church, and youth and community initiatives across the UK and the world.
Oasis works in ‘community hubs’ to provide a range of integrated and high quality services that support people holistically; educationally, physically, socially, spiritually, emotionally, economically and environmentally.
Steve has inspired numerous key initiatives in Oasis, which retain his involvement, including:
• Oasis College of Higher Education in London, in partnership with Staffordshire University, is committed to equipping and resourcing students with the skills, knowledge and understanding to improve the quality of life for their families and communities;
• Oasis Community Learning, has opened over 40 primary, secondary and all-through schools around the UK, and is committed to education and holistic community regeneration;
• Oasis Church in Waterloo, London, the first of a new network of UK churches which includes others in Bristol, Croydon, Enfield, Grimsby, Salford and Southampton;
• Stop The Traffik, a global coalition working in nearly 100 countries and with tens of thousands of activists around the world campaigning to end people trafficking. Steve was a United Nations Special Adviser for community action against human trafficking;
• People’s Parliament, which creates a place of debate, discussion, interaction and partnership for voluntary organisations with the aim of building more effective relationships between the government and the third sector.
In 2018, Rev Steve Chalke received the Spirit of London Award for the most amount of money raised for charity by an individual at the London Marathon, when he completed the 2011 race. He raised an incredible £2,330,159.38 for the Oasis UK charity.
1 hr 3 min
October 23, 2024 Nora Stern;(audio) AI as a Therapeutic Ally: Enhancing the Therapist-Client Relationship
In this enlightening episode, David and Naomi engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Nora Stern, co founder of Affinity AI. They delve into the innovative ways artificial intelligence can enhance therapeutic practices, discussing the potential benefits and challenges of integrating AI into mental health services. Nora shares insights on how AI can assist therapists in managing their workload, improving patient engagement, and providing valuable tools for therapy sessions.
**Key Topics Discussed:**
- Nora's background and the mission of Affinity AI
- The role of AI in summarizing therapy sessions and creating homework exercises for clients
- The importance of therapist involvement in AI interactions
- Potential applications of AI in high-need mental health services, such as prisons and secure hospitals
- The development of AI models trained by psychologists to deliver therapy in a human-like manner
- Addressing the challenges of accessibility in mental health services for underrepresented communities
- The unique advantages of human therapists in understanding emotional nuances that AI may struggle to replicate
https://www.affiniti.ai/
[email protected]
44 min
October 23, 2024 Nora Stern;(video) AI as a Therapeutic Ally: Enhancing the Therapist-Client Relationship
In this enlightening episode, David and Naomi engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Nora Stern, co founder of Affinity AI. They delve into the innovative ways artificial intelligence can enhance therapeutic practices, discussing the potential benefits and challenges of integrating AI into mental health services. Nora shares insights on how AI can assist therapists in managing their workload, improving patient engagement, and providing valuable tools for therapy sessions.
**Key Topics Discussed:**
- Nora's background and the mission of Affinity AI
- The role of AI in summarizing therapy sessions and creating homework exercises for clients
- The importance of therapist involvement in AI interactions
- Potential applications of AI in high-need mental health services, such as prisons and secure hospitals
- The development of AI models trained by psychologists to deliver therapy in a human-like manner
- Addressing the challenges of accessibility in mental health services for underrepresented communities
- The unique advantages of human therapists in understanding emotional nuances that AI may struggle to replicate
https://www.affiniti.ai/
[email protected]
44 min
October 16, 2024 Judith Edwards; (audio) "Grandmotherland: Exploring the Ties That Bind Generations
In this episode, we sit down with Judith Edwards, an experienced child and adolescent psychotherapist, to discuss her latest book, "Grandmotherland." Judith shares her insights on the profound impact of grandparenting, the complexities of familial relationships, and the importance of subjective experiences in understanding our lives. Join us as we explore the intersections of psychoanalysis, culture, and the unique role of grandmothers in shaping family dynamics.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0075417X.2024.2358905
Grandmotherland: exploring the myths and realities; by Judith Edwards, London, Karnac, 2023, 176 pp., £18.99 (paperback), ISBN 9781913494773

Judith Edwards is a child and adolescent psychotherapist. She worked for over thirty years at the Tavistock Clinic in London. The Tavistock is the foremost institute for training and for the application of psychological therapies in the UK. Love the Wild Swan: The Selected Works of Judith Edwards was published by Routledge in their World Library of Mental Health series, and her edited book, Psychoanalysis and Other Matters: Where Are We Now? was also published by Routledge. From 1996 to 2000, she was joint editor of the Journal of Child Psychotherapy. Apart from her clinical experience, one of her principal interests is in the links between psychoanalysis, culture, and the arts, as well as making psychoanalytic ideas accessible to a wider audience. She has an international academic publishing record and in 2010 was awarded the Jan Lee memorial prize for the best paper linking psychoanalysis and the arts during that year: ‘Teaching & Learning about Psychoanalysis: Film as a teaching tool’.
33 min
October 09, 2024 Helen Garlick; (Audio) In the Shadow of Secrets: Embracing Family Truths
In this conversation Helen Garlick discusses her book 'No Place to Lie' and the impact of family secrets. She shares her personal experience of discovering her brother's suicide and her mother's hidden sexuality after their deaths. The central themes of the book include family secrets, the power of communication, connection, and community, and the importance of love. Helen emphasizes the healing process and taking responsibility for our own healing. She also discusses the challenges of living with secrets and the impact they have on relationships and self-identity. Helen Garlick discusses the impact of family secrets and the power of writing to heal and transform. Helen emphasizes the importance of talking about and sharing our stories to lift the shame and isolation associated with family secrets. She also discusses the therapeutic benefits of writing and the process of writing her memoir. Helen encourages others to write their own stories and offers writing retreats to help people explore and express their experiences. She concludes by recommending the healing power of nature and the importance of connecting with the wildness around us.

Helen Garlick is the author of ‘No Place to Lie’ about family secrets. Formerly a family lawyer, mediator and trainer, she is now continuing to working on her own writing including the power of owning your own story. She has run coastal writing retreats in North Devon and is a true believer in the healing power of blue whether the sea or other bodies of water. She is strongly in favour of busting the shame/silence around family secrets and has a youtube channel called Hello It’s Better to Talk.
She currently lives in Devon with her husband Tim Rice (not that one) and three dogs. Between them they have five adult children.

Twitter @helenpgarlick
Instagram @helenpgarlick
Facebook Helen Garlick
51 min
October 09, 2024 Helen Garlick; (Video) In the Shadow of Secrets: Embracing Family Truths
In this conversation Helen Garlick discusses her book 'No Place to Lie' and the impact of family secrets. She shares her personal experience of discovering her brother's suicide and her mother's hidden sexuality after their deaths. The central themes of the book include family secrets, the power of communication, connection, and community, and the importance of love. Helen emphasizes the healing process and taking responsibility for our own healing. She also discusses the challenges of living with secrets and the impact they have on relationships and self-identity. Helen Garlick discusses the impact of family secrets and the power of writing to heal and transform. Helen emphasizes the importance of talking about and sharing our stories to lift the shame and isolation associated with family secrets. She also discusses the therapeutic benefits of writing and the process of writing her memoir. Helen encourages others to write their own stories and offers writing retreats to help people explore and express their experiences. She concludes by recommending the healing power of nature and the importance of connecting with the wildness around us.

Helen Garlick is the author of ‘No Place to Lie’ about family secrets. Formerly a family lawyer, mediator and trainer, she is now continuing to working on her own writing including the power of owning your own story. She has run coastal writing retreats in North Devon and is a true believer in the healing power of blue whether the sea or other bodies of water. She is strongly in favour of busting the shame/silence around family secrets and has a youtube channel called Hello It’s Better to Talk.
She currently lives in Devon with her husband Tim Rice (not that one) and three dogs. Between them they have five adult children.

Twitter @helenpgarlick
Instagram @helenpgarlick
Facebook Helen Garlick

51 min

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