In this deeply educational episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, Jen Dugard is joined by Clinical Myotherapist, educator, and creator of The C-Section Release Method, Madelaine Longrigg.

Together, they explore the physical, emotional, and often overlooked realities of C-section recovery from scar behaviour and breath restriction to adhesions, the “shelf,” and why many women struggle to reconnect with their abdominal wall after birth.

Maddie shares her journey from young PT to internationally recognised women’s health practitioner, how she rebuilt a fully booked clinical practice after relocating, and the steps she took to align herself with the right community, practitioners, and values.

This episode is essential listening for exercise professionals wanting to better understand C-section healing, support their clients with confidence, and play a stronger role in bridging the gap between fitness and women’s health care.

Highlights:

Key Takeaway:

C-section healing is far more than a scar,  it’s a whole-body, whole-nervous-system experience. When trainers understand the nuances of scar behaviour, breath, emotional safety, and abdominal reconnection, they become powerful allies in a woman’s recovery. With the right knowledge and support, mums can reclaim strength, confidence, and autonomy in their bodies.

Connect with Madelaine Longrigg:

Instagram: @bodylain_
Website: www.bodylain.com.au 

Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

In this live coaching episode of the MumSafe Podcast, Jen sits down with Caren Van Gastel, a MumSafe Trainer and owner of Empower Me Fitness in New Zealand. After years of splitting her time between a family business, raising her children, and running her classes, Caren is ready for her next chapter... building a sustainable, profitable business that supports mums through pregnancy, postnatal recovery, and prolapse.

Together, they look at Caren’s current class structure, financial targets, and personal goals. Jen guides her through raising her class prices with confidence, restructuring her PT services, and mapping out what a signature prolapse offering could look like. They also explore how to build referral pathways with pelvic health physiotherapists and refine her social media messaging so she can truly become known as the go-to trainer for mums with prolapse.

This episode is packed with real-life strategy, mindset shifts, and practical steps for any trainer who wants to grow their income, specialise with purpose, and create a business that actually supports their life, not drains it.

(00:01) Introducing the first live coaching call format
(00:57) Meet Caren from Empower Me Fitness and her goals for 2025
(01:20) How Caren is showing up today and where she feels stuck
(02:07) What she wants: a prolapse offering, PT clarity, and a social media plan
(02:53) Understanding her financial baseline for true safety
(04:05) Separating business and personal expenses for better clarity
(04:56) Factoring in tax, super and investments before paying yourself
(07:42) Why $500 a week isn’t enough and recalculating real-life costs
(11:23) Revenue from Mums & Bubs classes and current capacity
(12:30) Her long-running $10 community class and why it must increase
(13:36) Choosing a new aligned rate and using the MumSafe templates
(15:25) How a small price rise adds $100/week instantly
(16:32) Reviewing her PT clients and inconsistent pricing
(17:27) Why boundaries and terms matter for sustainability
(18:53) Setting usage periods and cancellation policies
(20:18) Adjusting legacy pricing with confidence
(22:29) New PT pricing and adding travel fees for mobile sessions
(23:21) Creating a clear PT price list and stopping 30-minute sessions
(25:03) Exploring whether renting a physio clinic room makes sense
(26:50) Why monthly recurring income supports stability
(29:53) Using fortnightly direct debits across the term
(33:27) Clarifying PT structure and how it fits into her longer-term vision
(37:09) Building a prolapse pathway through a physio partnership
(38:22) Mapping income potential from a prolapse speciality
(38:52) Caren’s desire to become the trainer known for prolapse support
(39:45) Meeting her income target through two clinic days + classes
(41:51) Alternative partnership models that benefit both sides
(45:12) When $80/day rent becomes worth it
(45:38) Designing a prolapse offer: consult, communication, progression
(46:42) Understanding client fears and how personalised care helps
(49:36) Structuring a 10-week prolapse program
(51:20) Bonus inclusions: breathing, lifting and lifestyle strategies
(52:11) Weekly prolapse symptom check-ins and cycle awareness
(53:39) Pricing the program and offering upfront vs payment plans
(55:56) How two days of prolapse clients can reach $1,500+ per week
(57:28) Building credibility: testimonials, assessment, and data
(59:43) Starting with trusted pelvic health physios
(01:01:42) Social media messaging for a prolapse niche
(01:03:03) Refining her Instagram bio and clarifying her speciality
(01:05:23) Recapping her action plan and next steps
(01:08:12) Feeling excited and overwhelmed — but clear
(01:10:44) Accepting that business is never “done” and enjoying the growth

Instagram: @empoweredmumsfitness
Website: https://empowermefitness.co.nz

Instagram: @jendugard
Register your interest: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer 

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In this week’s episode of The MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen is joined by Dr. Danni Antonellos, Osteopath, educator and coach driven by a mission to make world-class health and performance education accessible to everyone.

Danni is the Co-Founder of United Health Education, where she has presented seminars globally alongside the late Dr. Andrew Lock and Julie Lock, helping professionals bridge the gap between pain, performance and intelligent movement. She is also the Co-Founder of My Training Space, Co-Director of Paddo Performance and Co-Host of the Level Up with Sharelle and Danni Podcast.

With over a decade of experience in both allied health and fitness, Danni’s expertise lies in exercise prescription for strength, hypertrophy, performance and injury rehabilitation. Her approach blends science with real-world application, empowering coaches and clients to move better and perform at their best. Guided by her philosophy that movement is medicine, Danni is challenging outdated models of coaching and rehab to help people take lasting control of their health and performance.

In this conversation, we explore:

Key Takeaway

Movement is medicine — not just for the body, but for the mind.
When we empower clients to understand and own their movement, we help them move through pain, build strength, and live better lives.

Instagram: @danniantonellos 
Website: www.unitedhealthed.com

Instagram: @jendugard  | @mumsafemovement 
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

In this inspiring conversation, Jen sits down with Tony from Beautiful & Balanced Bodies to explore what it really takes to move from burnout to a sustainable, oversubscribed fitness business.

After years of working in the fitness industry and studying nutrition, Tony found herself exhausted, unfulfilled, and questioning how to make her passion work without burning out. Her journey into the MumSafe™ community marked a major turning point — one that saw her sell out every term, build a thriving client community, and step confidently into new levels of visibility and impact.

Jen and Tony unpack how she did it, the mindset shifts that made it possible, and why “eating more” might just be one of the most powerful things women can do for their health.

Highlights:

How Tony went from burnout and self-doubt to running a sold-out business for an entire year

The strategy behind her “oversubscribe” method and why small-group training changed everything

How she built local visibility and word-of-mouth marketing that keeps her classes full

The power of a waitlist and how it builds anticipation, accountability, and client loyalty

Why shifting from weight loss goals to strength and empowerment transformed her clients’ results

How to nurture a community that stays year after year

Tony’s mission to help women understand their bodies, eat more, and break free from diet culture

The role of the MumSafe™ community in building confidence, connection, and business growth

Key Takeaway:
Sustainable success isn’t about doing more — it’s about doing what matters, with balance. When you take yourself seriously, honour your energy, and surround yourself with the right support, your business (and your clients) will thrive.

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard 
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer 

Connect with Toni:

Instagram: @beautifulandbalancedbodies
Website: www.beautifulandbalancedbodies.com

In this empowering solo episode, Jen Dugard dives into a topic that every fitness professional working with mums needs to hear…  the hobby mindset.

If you’ve ever caught yourself saying, “It’s just a side business,” or “I don’t really need to make that much money,” this conversation is for you. Jen explores how language, mindset and self-perception can quietly keep brilliant trainers playing small and how shifting into professional thinking changes everything.

Drawing on her own experience of building a business from the ground up, Jen shares how the simple decision to take yourself seriously can transform not just your income, but your confidence, your family’s future and the impact you make in the world.

Highlights:

Key Takeaway:
When you treat your business like a hobby, it pays like one. When you treat it like a profession, it transforms lives… including your own. You deserve to build a business that supports your family, empowers mums and creates lasting change in your community.

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

In this special episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, the tables turn as Women’s Fitness Education founder Mish Wright interviews our very own host, Jen Dugard. With voting open for the AusActive Board, Jen shares what inspired her to stand for her third and final term, the lessons she’s learned from six years on the board, and her vision for the future of Australia’s fitness industry.

Jen opens up about the challenges and rewards of board leadership, from navigating industry politics to championing diversity, collaboration, and professionalism across the fitness sector. She reflects on her journey from personal trainer to national advocate, and why she continues to fight for safer, more sustainable careers for exercise professionals.

This episode is both an inside look into how systemic change happens in our industry and a powerful reminder that leadership isn’t about titles, it’s about courage, consistency, and staying committed to your mission, even when no one’s watching.

Highlights:

Key Takeaway:
Real change in the fitness industry happens when passionate professionals take a seat at the table and use it. Jen’s leadership reminds us that advocacy begins with action, and that every trainer, coach, and educator has the power to shape a stronger, more professional, and more inclusive future for our industry.

Connect with Jen Dugard:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

Connect with Mish Wright & Women’s Fitness Education:
Instagram: @womensfitnesseducation
Website: www.womensfitnesseducation.com.au

In this inspiring and empowering episode, Jen Dugard is joined by MumSafe™ Trainer Ana Le Carpentier, who shares her journey from new mum to confident business owner and advocate for women’s health.

After experiencing a traumatic first birth, postpartum complications, and a lack of support from the healthcare system, Ana turned her frustration into purpose. She became the pre- and postnatal trainer she once needed creating safe, judgment-free spaces where mums can move with confidence, rebuild trust in their bodies, and learn to advocate for themselves.

Together, Jen and Ana discuss the reality of postpartum recovery, the gaps in prenatal education, and how trainers can better support women by collaborating with allied health professionals and listening deeply to every client’s story.

This episode celebrates courage, community, and the belief that change begins when one woman decides to do better for herself and for others.

Highlights:

Key Takeaway:
When women understand their bodies and are encouraged to speak up for their needs, everything changes. Ana’s story reminds trainers that education, compassion, and collaboration create safer, stronger pathways for mums and that every conversation can be the start of change.

Connect with Ana Le Carpentier:
Instagram: @ana.lecarpentier

and here via her profile on the MumSafe website 

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

In this deeply powerful and eye-opening episode, Jen Dugard welcomes back MumSafe™ Trainer and owner of Bay Active PT, Kate Turtiainen, for an honest conversation about navigating birth trauma, recovery, and rebuilding both business and body after motherhood.

After experiencing a traumatic first birth, followed by two surgeries and the diagnosis of Asherman’s Syndrome, Kate’s journey to her second pregnancy demanded strength, self-advocacy, and the courage to challenge medical norms. She opens up about her experience with fertility challenges, a rare pregnancy complication (placenta accreta), and how rebuilding trust in her body changed the way she trains, mothers, and runs her business.

Together, Jen and Kate explore how language shapes women’s self-perception, why we need systemic change in women’s healthcare, and how trainers can better support women through every stage from conception to postpartum recovery and beyond.

This episode is both a call to awareness and an invitation to compassion for our clients, our bodies, and ourselves.

Highlights:

Every woman deserves informed, compassionate care before, during, and after birth. As fitness professionals, we have the privilege and responsibility to notice, listen, and guide women toward the right support. Kate’s story reminds us that healing and advocacy often start from lived experience and that by creating safe, aware spaces, we can help women reclaim trust in their bodies and thrive through every season of motherhood.

Instagram: @bayactivept
Connect with Kate via her profile on the MumSafe website - https://mumsafemovement.com/type/trainer/bay-active-pt/

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:

Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

This week at MumSafe™ Pro Podcast we’re taking a little pause for school holidays, but we’re bringing you one of our most popular episodes with the incredible Molly Galbraith.

If you haven’t listened yet, this is your chance to dive in and fully immerse yourself in the wisdom Molly shares. And if you have, it’s one of those conversations worth listening to again  each time you’ll take something new away.

Molly is the co-founder of Girls Gone Strong and creator of the GGS Academy,  the world’s first Academy providing evidence-based, women-specific certifications for health and fitness professionals. With graduates in over 125 countries, her work has helped tens of thousands of coaches become the go-to expert for women in their communities.

In this powerful conversation, Jen and Molly explore the ethos of women supporting women, creating opportunities for others, and understanding that there is enough space for every woman to thrive. You’ll also hear how one phrase from Molly’s 2018 keynote at The Women’s Health and Fitness Summit... “Build a table big enough for everyone”, became a guiding principle for how MumSafe™ has evolved to today.

Highlights:

Honouring Molly’s sister and the impact on her journey

Molly’s story and why she founded Girls Gone Strong

The new Menopause Qualification and what it means for the industry

Body image, diet culture, and disordered eating

What frustrates Molly most about the fitness industry

Menopause, prolapse, and the opportunity exercise professionals have to support women

“Not enoughness” and how to reframe it

Molly’s book Strong Women Lift Each Other Up

How to handle jealousy and envy

Values, focus, and building a business with integrity

The legacy Molly wants to leave

Key Takeaway:
When women support women, we all rise. There is enough space, enough opportunity, and enough possibility for every woman to thrive.

Connect with Molly Galbraith

Connect with Molly on Instagram here.

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer

In this week’s short solo episode of the MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen steps away from the usual full-length conversations to share something important… the power of taking a break.

After a huge six weeks of “energy out”,  from delivering retreats, running trainings, speaking at expos, and celebrating MumSafe™’s CPD Provider of the Year award,  Jen found herself once again chasing her tail. And with school holidays now in full swing, she’s reminding herself (and you) why rest is just as essential as consistency in business.

But that’s not all,  Jen also has a special surprise inside this episode. She’s opening up five free one-on-one coaching sessions (valued at $550 each) for fitness business owners who work with mums. These sessions will be recorded and shared as podcast episodes so others can learn from your journey, too.

To apply for one of the five spots: email [email protected] with the subject line “Coaching” and include a short note about you, your business, and the kind of support you’re looking for.

This episode is part reminder, part invitation,  to prioritise your own wellbeing, to schedule breaks before burnout hits, and to put yourself forward for support if you’ve been craving guidance in your business.

Highlights:

Key Takeaway:
Consistency builds businesses, but rest sustains them. When you give yourself permission to pause, you return stronger, clearer, and more ready to serve the mums in your community. And sometimes, the support you need to take that next step is just one brave email away.

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer