The MumSafe Pro Podcast

By Jen DugardBusiness Entrepreneurship Health & Fitness Parenting Kids & Family

The MumSafe Pro Podcast episodes

January 20 Ep 78. The Change We Want to See: Legacy, Values & the Future of Fitness for Women
In this episode of the MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen Dugard brings together the voices of past guests to explore a powerful question that was asked at the end of many conversations throughout 2025:
What do you want to change in the fitness industry and beyond?
From redefining how women and mums are supported to challenging outdated systems and advocating for safer more informed care, this episode captures the legacy thinking behind the work our guests are committed to.
As you listen, you’re invited to reflect on your own values. Why you do what you do. What you stand for. And the mark you want to leave through your work whether inside the fitness industry or beyond it.
This episode is a reminder that meaningful change doesn’t happen in isolation. It happens when people with shared values come together and lead with intention.
Thinking About Joining MumSafe™ in 2026?
If this episode has you feeling aligned curious or called to do this work with support and community: 👉 Learn more at www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer 👉 Or head to Instagram and message @jendugard to start the conversation
22 min
January 12 Ep 77. Lessons from MumSafe™ Trainers Over the Past 12 Months
In this episode of the MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen Dugard continues the reflection from last week’s celebration episode by sharing the real learnings that MumSafe™ Trainers have voiced over the past 12 months and throughout 2025.
This episode was created as a reminder that running a fitness business especially one that supports mums can feel isolating at times. You can be juggling big goals, family life, clients, finances, and self-doubt while believing you’re the only one struggling.
The reality is you’re not.
Drawing from conversations, coaching calls, and previous podcast episodes, Jen brings together common themes, challenges, and breakthroughs shared by MumSafe™ Trainers across the year. These are the honest lessons that come up when trainers gather, speak openly, and learn from one another inside the MumSafe™ community.
If you’ve been feeling stuck, overwhelmed, or alone in your business, this episode is here to remind you that others have walked this path before you and found their way through.
Feeling Called to Learn More About MumSafe™?
If this episode leaves you feeling seen, supported, or curious about what MumSafe™ could offer you:
👉 Learn more at www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
👉 Or head to Instagram and send Jen a message @jendugard to start the conversation

Jen would love to support you on your journey to becoming the go-to trainer for mums in your area in 2026.
32 min
January 07 Ep 76. Celebrating MumSafe™ Trainer Wins & Looking Ahead to 2026
Welcome to the very first episode of the MumSafe™ Pro Podcast for 2026.
In this special episode, Jen Dugard opens the year by celebrating what’s been built inside the MumSafe™ community and turning the spotlight onto the real wins of MumSafe™ Trainers. From confidence and clarity to sustainable businesses, aligned careers and meaningful impact, this episode is a compilation of trainer stories designed to inspire what’s possible.
As we reflect on the year that’s been and look ahead to the year to come, this episode invites you to picture yourself stepping into a role that supports mums, values women’s health and allows you to build a career that actually works for your life.
If you’ve ever wondered whether becoming a MumSafe™ Trainer could be your next step, this episode is for you.
Thinking About Becoming a MumSafe™ Trainer?
If this episode has you feeling inspired and curious about what’s possible for you in 2026:
👉 Learn more at www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
👉 Or head to Instagram and send Jen a message @jendugard to receive the link to the MumSafe™ information session

16 min
December 28, 2025Ep 75: Reflecting Before You Reset: A Guided 2025 Review for Trainers
In this final episode of 2025, Jen Dugard invites you to pause before rushing into goals, plans, and resolutions.
Rather than jumping straight into goal setting, this episode is a guided reflection session designed to help you take stock of the year that’s been, what worked, what didn’t, what felt aligned, and what you’re ready to leave behind as you move into 2026.
This reflection process is one Jen uses every year inside MumSafe™, and it’s designed to support trainers who want to build a business that genuinely aligns with their values, energy, family life, and long-term vision... not just one that looks good on paper.
You’ll be guided through questions that help you reflect on your values, achievements, challenges, energy, income, alignment, support systems, and the ripple effect of your work. There’s no pressure to have answers or to lock anything in, this episode is about creating space, clarity, and awareness before you move forward.
If you’ve felt tired, proud, stretched, grateful, frustrated, excited, or all of the above this year, this episode is for you.
In this episode, we explore:
Why reflection is more powerful than rushing straight into goal setting
How to identify your whole-life values and notice when you’re out of alignment
Recognising trigger feelings versus alignment feelings
Reflecting on achievements beyond business growth
The habits, skills, and support that shaped your year
Understanding seasons of life and business
Where burnout, overwhelm, or resistance showed up and what they’re trying to tell you
Clarifying your mission, ideal client, and ripple effect
Reviewing your offers, income, energy, and alignment
Introducing concepts like your superpower and your “one thing”
Creating space for your 2026 vision to form without forcing it
Key Takeaway
You don’t need to rush into fixing, planning, or setting goals. Taking time to reflect creates clarity, alignment, and direction and gives your next chapter room to take shape naturally.
Resources Mentioned
Jen has created a reflection workbook to support this episode.
To receive it, head to Instagram and send Jen a DM.
Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
33 min
December 22, 2025Ep 74: Finding Your Voice, Owning Your Message, and Building Influencewith Chantal Broderick
In this episode of The MumSafe™ Pro Podcast, Jen Dugard is joined by industry leader, speaker, emcee, podcast host, and presentation coach Chantal Brodrick for a wide-ranging and deeply insightful conversation about confidence, communication, and long-term career sustainability in the fitness industry.
Chantal shares her journey from a 15-year career in media into fitness, business coaching, podcasting, and eventually stepping onto stages as a presenter and emcee at major industry events. Together, Jen and Chantal unpack what it really takes to build influence over time, why content creation compounds, and how trainers can begin to see speaking and presenting as an extension of service rather than self-promotion.
This episode is especially powerful for trainers who feel the pull to do more than just sessions on the gym floor, whether that’s running workshops, educating communities, speaking on stages, or becoming a recognised voice in their niche.
In This Episode, We Cover
Chantal’s transition from media into fitness and why business education became her sweet spot
How podcasting helped shape her authority, confidence, and opportunities to speak on stage
Why building content consistently matters more than making it perfect
The role of speaking, presenting, and workshops in becoming the go-to trainer in your community
How trainers can start sharing their message without waiting for a big conference stage
The importance of evidence, experience, and alignment when applying to speak at events
Chantal’s experience on the board of AusActive and why industry advocacy matters
Three practical tips to speak with confidence, even when nerves show up
Why preparation, practice, and practising with distraction can change everything
How trainers can think about speaking as service, not ego
The power of knowing your “superpower” and weaving it into your fitness career
Key Takeaway
Confidence doesn’t come from waiting until you feel ready. It comes from preparation, repetition, and choosing to share your message… imperfectly, in service of others. Whether it’s a workshop, a podcast, or a stage, your voice has value when it’s grounded in experience and aligned with who you serve.
Connect with Chantal Brodrick
Website: https://chantalbrodrick.com.au/
Program: Speak With Confidence (one-on-one coaching for presenters, trainers, and professionals)
Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™
Instagram: @jendugard | @mumsafemovement
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
1 hr 3 min
December 14, 2025Ep. 73: 25 Things That Pissed Me Off in 2025
In this end-of-year solo episode, Jen Dugard wraps up 2025 with a candid, honest, and at times uncomfortable conversation, sharing 25 things that have genuinely pissed her off over the past year.
Some of these frustrations are light-hearted and very human. Others cut much deeper, shining a spotlight on ongoing issues within the fitness industry, women’s health, and how mums continue to be overlooked, misunderstood, or underserved.
Through humour, reflection, and straight-talking insight, Jen explores where the industry is missing the mark, why nuance and best practice still matter, and what needs to change if we genuinely want to support women and mums better not just in theory, but in practice.
This episode is part rant, part reality check, and part invitation to do better. It’s a reminder that frustration often points us toward what we care about most and where action is still needed.
Episode Highlights
Why mums are still treated as a “small niche” despite making up a significant portion of the fitness industry
The ongoing lack of pre and postnatal education and accountability in mainstream fitness qualifications
The dangers of black-and-white research messaging without clinical context
Misconceptions around abdominal separation, core training, and best practice postpartum care
Why caring deeply about mums and running a profitable business are not opposing goals
The frustration of women’s health conversations skipping pregnancy and postpartum entirely
Why trainer professionalism, ongoing education, and registration truly matter
What happens when people say “it’s not working” without doing the work
Real-life annoyances that remind us we’re all human, tired, and doing our best

Key Takeaway
Progress in women’s health and the fitness industry doesn’t come from ignoring nuance or chasing trends. It comes from education, accountability, lived experience, and a willingness to challenge outdated systems even when it’s uncomfortable.
What’s Mentioned in This Episode
Jen also shares information about the final MumSafe™ Information Session for 2025, happening on 19 December, for trainers who want to learn more about Safe Return to Exercise and the MumSafe™ pathway for 2026.
Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™
Instagram: @jendugard | @mumsafemovement
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
1 hr 3 min
December 07, 2025Ep. 72: When You Don’t Feel Like Doing Anything
In this solo episode, Jen Dugard opens up about those days, the ones where you don’t feel motivated, productive, or inspired. The days when showing up for your clients or your business feels heavy, even though you care deeply about what you do.
If you’re a trainer working with mums (or want to be the go-to trainer in your community), this episode is for you. Jen explores why “I don’t feel like doing anything” days are completely normal, the three main ways they tend to show up for trainers, and how to move through them with kindness and clarity.
Drawing from her own experience, from building Body Beyond Baby to creating Safe Return to Exercise and MumSafe™, Jen shares what nearly two decades in the industry have taught her about motivation, mindset, and building a sustainable business that supports your life, not drains it.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why “off days” don’t mean you’re failing and why they’re actually part of sustainable growth
The three types of days trainers commonly experience: overwhelmed, disheartened, and lost
How to recognise which one you’re in and what to do next
Practical ways to regulate, reset, and refocus without burning out
The “power of three” method to simplify your to-do list and move forward gently
How to use structure, support, and community to stay consistent — even when motivation fades
Key Takeaway
Your business isn’t built on motivation.
It’s built on clear foundations, small consistent actions, and community support that carries you on the hard days.
Episode Highlights
The “47 tabs open” overwhelmed day, when you’re busy but not productive
The disheartened day, when you’re doing the work but it feels like nothing’s moving
The lost day, when you have time but no clear direction
How to name what kind of day you’re having and release the guilt
The Power of Three: the simplest tool to bring focus back to your day
Why community and connection matter most when you feel like pulling away
How MumSafe™ provides the structure and support to keep going through it all

Connect with Jen Dugard & MumSafe™
Instagram: @jendugard | @mumsafemovement
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
24 min
November 30, 2025Ep 71. Exercising Through Breast Cancer, Pelvic Health & Preventative Women’s Health with Exercise Physiologist Anna-Louise Moule
In this insightful episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, Jen Dugard sits down with Exercise Physiologist and clinic founder Anna-Louise Moule, whose career has been dedicated to women’s health and cancer care for over a decade.
Anna-Louise shares her clinical expertise across breast cancer treatment, persistent pelvic pain, hypermobility, and postpartum recovery, while also offering a rare behind-the-scenes look at how she built and leads a thriving multidisciplinary clinic.
This conversation spans everything from strength training during cancer treatment to the hormonal overlap between postpartum and perimenopause, and the critical role of preventative care across a woman’s lifespan.
Perfect for exercise professionals, EPs, physios, and anyone passionate about creating safer, more informed support for women.
Highlights:
How exercise guidelines for breast cancer have evolved, from “rest” to targeted, higher-intensity strength training
How to safely support clients through fatigue, chemo side effects, and immunocompromise
Understanding low-estrogen states (breastfeeding, treatment-induced menopause, perimenopause) and their impact on pelvic floor capacity
Why postpartum and perimenopause programming share more overlap than we think
The importance of training to the “weakest link” across complex health presentations
How early postpartum care changes long-term women’s health outcomes
What trainers should ask when screening women with persistent pelvic pain
How oncology EPs, pelvic health physios, and trainers can collaborate for better client outcomes
Anna-Louise’s transition from solo EP to multidisciplinary clinic owner
The real challenges of leadership: boundaries, finances, hiring and navigating maternity leave
Why preventative care, not reactive treatment, is the future of women’s health
The value of MumSafe™ education for EPs and why collaboration beats turf wars
Key Takeaway:
Women’s health is interconnected. Whether a woman is navigating cancer treatment, postpartum recovery or perimenopause, movement is medicine and when professionals collaborate across disciplines, we give women the preventative care, strength and confidence they deserve.
About Anna-Louise Moule:
Anna has been an Exercise Physiologist since 2011 and founded Balanced Bodies Lifestyle Clinic in 2013. She has always had a strong interest in women’s health and cancer care, shaped by her active upbringing and a love of movement.
She holds a Bachelor of Exercise and Sport Science from Sydney University and a Masters in Exercise Physiology.
Today, Anna leads a multidisciplinary team of EPs, physios, dietitians and massage therapists, while also mentoring early-career EPs and female clinic owners, teaching casually at universities, and working clinically in her specialty areas, all while raising her two young girls.
Connect with Anna-Louise Moule:
Website: https://www.bblifestyleclinic.com.au/
Instagram: @balancedbodieslifestyleclinic
Connect with Jen & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
1 hr
November 23, 2025Ep 70. Understanding C-Section Healing & Supporting Postpartum Women with Clinical Myotherapist Madelaine Longrigg
In this deeply educational episode of the MumSafe™ Podcast, Jen Dugard is joined by Clinical Myotherapist, educator, and creator of The C-Section Release Method, Madelaine Longrigg.
Together, they explore the physical, emotional, and often overlooked realities of C-section recovery from scar behaviour and breath restriction to adhesions, the “shelf,” and why many women struggle to reconnect with their abdominal wall after birth.
Maddie shares her journey from young PT to internationally recognised women’s health practitioner, how she rebuilt a fully booked clinical practice after relocating, and the steps she took to align herself with the right community, practitioners, and values.
This episode is essential listening for exercise professionals wanting to better understand C-section healing, support their clients with confidence, and play a stronger role in bridging the gap between fitness and women’s health care.
Highlights:
Maddie’s journey from personal trainer to women’s health myotherapist and educator
How she rebuilt a thriving practice after moving interstate with no client base
Why strategic community alignment and practitioner referrals matter
The difference between planned and emergency C-sections and why it affects scar behaviour
What trainers should ask during C-section pre-screening to better understand a client’s history
The signs a scar needs attention: pain, pulling, numbness, tightness, or a visible “shelf”
What a C-section “shelf” actually is and why it’s not just about weight
Why breathwork is the earliest and most powerful tool for C-section healing
Understanding trauma, dissociation, and emotional release in scar work
How trainers can help women create safety and reconnection through movement
The importance of abdominal activation immediately after scar release
Why mums shouldn’t “wait until after their next baby” to get scar support
How The C-Section Release Method is training practitioners across Australia and NZ
Maddie’s mission to change how women are cared for physically, emotionally, and systemically

Key Takeaway:
C-section healing is far more than a scar, it’s a whole-body, whole-nervous-system experience. When trainers understand the nuances of scar behaviour, breath, emotional safety, and abdominal reconnection, they become powerful allies in a woman’s recovery. With the right knowledge and support, mums can reclaim strength, confidence, and autonomy in their bodies.
Connect with Madelaine Longrigg:
Instagram: @bodylain_
Website: www.bodylain.com.au
Connect with Jen & MumSafe™:
Instagram: @jendugard
Website: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
55 min
November 16, 2025 Ep 69. How to Build a Sustainable Fitness Business for Mums: Coaching Episode with Caren Van Gastel
In this live coaching episode of the MumSafe Podcast, Jen sits down with Caren Van Gastel, a MumSafe Trainer and owner of Empower Me Fitness in New Zealand. After years of splitting her time between a family business, raising her children, and running her classes, Caren is ready for her next chapter... building a sustainable, profitable business that supports mums through pregnancy, postnatal recovery, and prolapse.
Together, they look at Caren’s current class structure, financial targets, and personal goals. Jen guides her through raising her class prices with confidence, restructuring her PT services, and mapping out what a signature prolapse offering could look like. They also explore how to build referral pathways with pelvic health physiotherapists and refine her social media messaging so she can truly become known as the go-to trainer for mums with prolapse.
This episode is packed with real-life strategy, mindset shifts, and practical steps for any trainer who wants to grow their income, specialise with purpose, and create a business that actually supports their life, not drains it.
Episode Highlights
(00:01) Introducing the first live coaching call format
(00:57) Meet Caren from Empower Me Fitness and her goals for 2025
(01:20) How Caren is showing up today and where she feels stuck
(02:07) What she wants: a prolapse offering, PT clarity, and a social media plan
(02:53) Understanding her financial baseline for true safety
(04:05) Separating business and personal expenses for better clarity
(04:56) Factoring in tax, super and investments before paying yourself
(07:42) Why $500 a week isn’t enough and recalculating real-life costs
(11:23) Revenue from Mums & Bubs classes and current capacity
(12:30) Her long-running $10 community class and why it must increase
(13:36) Choosing a new aligned rate and using the MumSafe templates
(15:25) How a small price rise adds $100/week instantly
(16:32) Reviewing her PT clients and inconsistent pricing
(17:27) Why boundaries and terms matter for sustainability
(18:53) Setting usage periods and cancellation policies
(20:18) Adjusting legacy pricing with confidence
(22:29) New PT pricing and adding travel fees for mobile sessions
(23:21) Creating a clear PT price list and stopping 30-minute sessions
(25:03) Exploring whether renting a physio clinic room makes sense
(26:50) Why monthly recurring income supports stability
(29:53) Using fortnightly direct debits across the term
(33:27) Clarifying PT structure and how it fits into her longer-term vision
(37:09) Building a prolapse pathway through a physio partnership
(38:22) Mapping income potential from a prolapse speciality
(38:52) Caren’s desire to become the trainer known for prolapse support
(39:45) Meeting her income target through two clinic days + classes
(41:51) Alternative partnership models that benefit both sides
(45:12) When $80/day rent becomes worth it
(45:38) Designing a prolapse offer: consult, communication, progression
(46:42) Understanding client fears and how personalised care helps
(49:36) Structuring a 10-week prolapse program
(51:20) Bonus inclusions: breathing, lifting and lifestyle strategies
(52:11) Weekly prolapse symptom check-ins and cycle awareness
(53:39) Pricing the program and offering upfront vs payment plans
(55:56) How two days of prolapse clients can reach $1,500+ per week
(57:28) Building credibility: testimonials, assessment, and data
(59:43) Starting with trusted pelvic health physios
(01:01:42) Social media messaging for a prolapse niche
(01:03:03) Refining her Instagram bio and clarifying her speciality
(01:05:23) Recapping her action plan and next steps
(01:08:12) Feeling excited and overwhelmed — but clear
(01:10:44) Accepting that business is never “done” and enjoying the growth

Connect with Caren:
Instagram: @empoweredmumsfitness
Website: https://empowermefitness.co.nz
Connect with Jen & MumSafe:
Instagram: @jendugard
Register your interest: www.jendugard.com/mumsafetrainer
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1 hr 8 min