The NAVigator

The NAVigator

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The NAVigator episodes

  • BlackRock's Minar on how the firm is changing discount plays

    Stephen Minar, Managing Director and Head of Closed-End Funds at BlackRock, discusses a contemporary conundrum in the closed-end fund industry: How discounts drive money flows into closed-end funds but also attract activist investors whose actions may be harmful to long-term individual investors. To address this, Minar notes that BlackRock has launched initiatives in a series of new funds that can reduce discounts, thereby making a fund less likely to attract activists, while increasing consistency in distributions.

    13 min
  • Sizemore: "The Fed's actions have changed, but the discounts remain"

    Charles Lewis Sizemore, chief investment officer at Sizemore Capital Management, says that while short-term rates are as high as they are likely to be, the "massive discount" created in closed-end funds while rates were on the rise have not dissipated. That means closed-end funds remain a compelling value now, and Sizemore said he is finding particularly strong values in REIT-oriented funds and term funds. However, he noted that he's not a big fan of most equity-based funds now because with the market looking frothy "you probably don't want to be adding leveraged exposure to the stock market."

    14 min
  • Angel Oak's Triick says mortgages are in a fixed-income sweet spot now

    Clayton Triick, Head of Portfolio Management, Public Strategies at Angel Oak Capital Advisors — part of the team running the Angel Oak Strategic Credit Fund — says that fundamentals and valuations seldom get aligned the way they have right now for the U.S. housing market and American homeowners. He notes that valuations are "cheaper than they should be" given the strength of the market and mortgage holders, creating opportunity. Triick says homeowners "did a really good job of locking in low mortgage rates," making them the big winners of the rising rate environment and making mortgages look more attractive than other bond types — particularly corporates where valuations have gotten rich relative to the economy's strong fundamentals.

    13 min
  • Liberty Street's Munafo on opportunities in late-stage private venture

    Christian Munafo, Chief Investment Officer at Liberty Street Advisors, which runs the Private Shares Fund, discusses how late-stage private venture companies are generating a huge chunk of economic power off most investors' radar. He says now is the time for many investors to pursue the opportunity, coming off of two years in which private shares struggled and markets for taking those companies public stalled. Munafo believes the recent pickup in IPOs is a positive sign. He also discusses Destiny Tech 100, an exchange-traded closed-end portfolio that has been trading like a meme stock, with massive gains — but also nosebleed losses — since its debut in March.

    15 min
  • Abrdn's Mondillo: Record discounts plus solid yields should pay off for muni investors

    Jonathan Mondillo, head of North American fixed income for abrdn says that record discount levels for municipal bond closed-end funds, coupled with attractive yields on those funds, are creating real opportunities for investors, though he warns about the middle of the yield curve, noting that the most compelling values are at the two ends of the barbell -- the short-term and long-duration paper -- which he expects to continue even as the rate cycle plays out and the Federal Reserve finally moves to cut rates.

    11 min
  • John Cole Scott gives his first take on 2024

    John Cole Scott, President of Closed-End Fund Advisors and Chairman of the Active Investment Company Alliance, drills into the first-quarter data for closed-end funds. He notes that while municipal-bond funds still couldn't break out of their long-running slump, the first three months were a strong time for most closed-end funds (more than 90 percent were up for the period).

    13 min
  • Sit's Doty says meaningful rate cuts aren't coming until 2025

    Bryce Doty, Senior Portfolio Manager at Sit Investment Associates, says the uptick in inflation is not enough to overwhelm the yields investors are earning, noting that real returns may be better than ever. He says investors should enjoy collecting the high yields while interest rates remain high, and while total returns should improve once cuts start, investors will have to wait for that to happen. Doty does not expect meaningful rate cuts this year -- he anticipates two reductions, one after the election -- but says that the long-term average gap between the Fed funds rate and inflation is well above its typical zero, so the central bank can cut rates and have a positive gap, meaning it can claim to be tough even as reductions start. Doty anticipates the important cuts -- the ones which narrow that gap back to near zero -- will occur in 2025.

    14 min
  • Allspring's de Silva says U.S. still has the world's best income opportunities

    Harin de Silva, manager of the Allspring Global Dividend Opportunity fund, says that the U.S. markets have remained among the best income-generating investment opportunities when it comes to the yields being generated relative to the risks being taken. While he favors a global allocation, de Silva noted that the fund has a surprising tilt toward the United States, helped along by the low volatility levels due to the strength of the U.S. economy. Globally, however, de Silva notes that the big surprise in recent markets has been how the bad news and headlines from Ukraine and Israel -- along with troubles at both the Suez and Panama Canal -- have not created uncertainty in the market and convinced investors to stop taking on risk.

    11 min
  • What struggles in the BDC market portend in a changing rate cycle

    Nicholas Marshi, editor at the BDC Reporter, talks about the struggles business development companies (BDCs) had at the end of 2023, saying he was shocked to see that more than a third of the BDCs his publication tracks were "performing below ... reasonable expectations regarding their key metrics." He says that troubles tend to spiral for a few quarters before they get sorted out. Marshi also notes that no BDC has cut dividends yet, leaving "a really wide disparity of value between the BDCs" and making this a classic stock-picker's market in the space.

    10 min
  • Axel Merk on the broader impact of an activist investor's approach

    Axel Merk, chief investment officer of the ASA Gold and Precious Metals, discusses the impact that Saba Capital Management is having on the fund and on shareholders as it entered the fund as an activist, moving to change the board as it pushes for a double-digit discount to be narrowed. Merk discusses the challenge of dealing with activist investors in a junior mining fund, the potential for the fund to be liquidated, the possible outcomes and the impact of the action on shareholders.

    15 min

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