Howard Stern admits he was the worst DJ imaginable when he started. But his obsessive will to get better transformed him into a legend. In this episode, Dan and Pam explore how this principle applies to every high performer, from athletes to salespeople.

You'll learn about the two components that determine whether you reach your potential—drive and exposure to elite standards—and why surrounding yourself with people who operate at a higher level is non-negotiable for growth. Dan also shares the details of his brutal early sales journey, and the uncomfortable practice that became the foundation of his transformation.

This conversation gets real about what real improvement actually costs, and why most people aren't willing to pay that price. Listen if you're ready to change how you think about growth.