Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

The Pride and Tragedy of Joe Biden

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Is Joe Biden more of a Jimmy Carter or a James Buchanan? It may be years before the outgoing president’s legacy is truly understood, but that didn’t stop the hosts from debating how Biden’s term in office will be remembered.

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) 

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