“OMM helps us look beyond the place where pain shows up and understand what may be contributing to it.” —Dr. Drew Rose

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Drew Rose, DO, to explore how Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine (OMM) offers a hands-on way of understanding the body’s structure and movement patterns. Dr. Drew explains how structure and function are interconnected, why touch can offer insight that standard testing may not provide, and how OMM can be used as part of an individualized approach for people navigating chronic pain, headaches, fatigue, inflammatory conditions, COPD, fibromyalgia, and other complex concerns.

He also shares lessons from his years practicing hospital and ICU medicine, including why one-size-fits-all care often falls short—and how osteopathic principles offer a deeper perspective on what the body may be signaling.

Highlights include:

→ What OMM is and how it differs from chiropractic care

→ Why osteopathic medicine focuses on structure and function

→ How foot and gait mechanics can influence low back pain

→ What NASA research revealed about cranial motion

→ How hands-on assessment can offer a different perspective than imaging alone

→ Using OMM within individualized care for chronic and complex concerns

→ The role of lymphatic flow, fascia, and subtle motion

→ How OMM complements the Riordan Clinic approach to whole-person care

About Drew Rose, DO

Drew Rose, DO, is an internal medicine physician with advanced training in Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine. Before joining Riordan Clinic, he spent six years practicing hospital and ICU medicine in Kansas. He brings a whole-person, hands-on approach to patient care, integrating structural evaluation, osteopathic principles, and nutritional insights to support alignment, mobility, and overall well-being. Learn more about Dr. Drew or schedule a new patient appointment.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introducing OMM

01:10 MD vs DO vs chiropractic training

02:46 Structure, function, and whole-body evaluation

04:18 Low back pain and the kinetic chain

06:01 Foot mechanics and alignment

07:34 Cranial motion, NASA research, and headaches

10:14 OMM and migraines

12:19 Foundational osteopathic principles

14:11 OMM in chronic and complex experience

17:22 Nervous system sensitization and subtle motion

20:05 Individualized care in hospital medicine

22:12 How OMM complements whole-person care

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

Topics we explore in this episode:

osteopathic medicine, OMM, osteopathic manipulative medicine, cranial motion, cranial rhythmic impulse, chronic pain, migraines, headaches, low back pain, gait mechanics, kinetic chain, lymphatic flow, fascia, COPD, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, integrative medicine, functional medicine, hands-on medicine, individualized care, whole-person health, Riordan Clinic providers, structural alignment, root-cause perspective

“When you bring care back to patients and providers, everyone heals faster.” —Shaun Noorian

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Shaun Noorian, CEO and founder of Empower Pharmacy, for a conversation about how innovation and integrity are transforming the future of medicine.

Shaun shares how a personal health journey led him to reimagine what pharmacy could be — one built around compassion, access, and individualized care. He and Dr. Ron explore how integrative medicine and personalized compounding can support patient well-being and advance the field of preventive pharmacology.

Part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s 25th International Conference on Human Functioning: Cancer Care Reimagined, held in early November.

Highlights include:

→ How Shaun Noorian's own healing journey inspired Empower Pharmacy

→ Why individualized compounding plays a vital role in patient care

→ The evolving role of pharmacy in integrative and functional medicine

→ How collaboration between providers and pharmacists improves patient care

→ What the future of personalized and preventive medicine looks like

About Shaun Noorian

Shaun Noorian is the CEO and founder of Empower Pharmacy, the largest compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing facility in the United States. With a background in engineering and a mission to make high-quality, affordable, and personalized medications accessible to all, Shaun has built Empower into a national leader serving millions of patients.

Empower Pharmacy operates with a simple but powerful belief: behind every order is a person in need. This philosophy drives their commitment to compassion, innovation, and excellence in every aspect of care.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower Pharmacy, Platinum Sponsor of the Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. Empower is a national leader in compounding and 503B outsourcing, serving providers and patients in all 50 states with safe, affordable, personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + Speaker Series intro

01:24 Meet Shaun Noorian, founder of Empower Pharmacy

02:28 From patient to pharmacist to pioneer

05:05 The power of personalized medicine

07:40 Integrative therapies in oncology and chronic illness

10:50 Vitamin C and nutrient therapy in cancer care

13:40 Why individualized treatment improves outcomes

16:25 The role of compounding in preventive pharmacology

19:10 Partnering with providers for better patient results

21:00 How Empower Pharmacy supports integrative medicine

23:30 Looking ahead: innovation, prevention, and collaboration

Topics we explore in this episode include:

compounding pharmacy, integrative medicine, functional medicine, individualized care, preventive pharmacology, IV nutrition therapy, vitamin C research, cancer care innovation, metabolic health, patient empowerment, provider partnerships, and the evolution of personalized medicine

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“When you understand the why behind illness, that’s when healing truly begins.” —Dr. Michelle Niesley

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Michelle Niesley, ND, MS, FABNO—Chief Executive Officer of Riordan Clinic, clinical research, and naturopathic doctor specializing in integrative oncology—to explore how science, compassion, and curiosity come together in modern medicine.

Dr. Niesley shares her path from research to leadership, the Clinic’s 50-year legacy of innovation, and the importance of bridging conventional and integrative care. From terrain-based medicine to whole-brain thinking, this conversation highlights the next chapter of healing at Riordan Clinic.

👉 Part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s 25th International Conference on Human Functioning: Cancer Care Reimagined this November.

Highlights include:

→ How Dr. Niesley’s journey from research to leadership is shaping Riordan Clinic’s future

→ Why understanding the “why” behind illness transforms care

→ The “weed and soil” model of terrain-based oncology

→ What whole-brain medicine means for modern healthcare

→ How communication and connection empower patients as co-learners

About Dr. Michelle Niesley

Dr. Michelle Niesley, ND, MS, FABNO is the Chief Executive Officer of Riordan Clinic. She earned her Doctorate in Naturopathic Medicine from Bastyr University and a Master’s in Evaluative Clinical Sciences from Dartmouth College, focusing on biostatistics and epidemiology.

With more than 20 years of experience in integrative medicine, clinical research, and leadership, Dr. Niesley bridges evidence-based science with a whole-person approach to care. Her work continues to advance Riordan Clinic’s mission to combine research, education, and compassionate medicine that addresses the root causes of illness and fosters real healing.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower Pharmacy, Platinum Sponsor of the Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. Empower is a national leader in compounding and 503B outsourcing, serving providers and patients in all 50 states with safe, affordable, personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + Speaker Series intro

01:44 Meet Dr. Michelle Niesley

02:28 From naturopathic oncology to CEO

04:10 Finding purpose through individualized medicine

05:57 The “weed and soil” analogy of terrain-based care

07:19 Why she was drawn to Riordan Clinic

09:09 The story behind the 25th Conference

10:36 Whole-brain medicine and bridging both sides of care

13:19 Integrative oncology in mainstream medicine

15:51 Empowering patients as co-learners

18:05 Building community + innovation between visits

19:19 Conference invitation + closing reflections

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative oncology, naturopathic doctors who specialize in integrative oncology, terrain-based care, functional medicine, whole-brain medicine, personalized healing, biostatistics and research, individualized treatment, patient empowerment, the future of cancer care, Riordan Clinic leadership, education and research in medicine, and bridging conventional and integrative approaches

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“True healing happens when medicine honors both evidence and intuition — when we use science to guide us, and humanity to connect us.” —Dr. Lise Alschuler

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Lise Alschuler, a leading naturopathic oncologist, educator, and author who has spent more than three decades advancing integrative approaches to cancer care. Together, they explore how the next generation of oncology is being redefined through the union of measurable science and the wisdom of the human body.

Dr. Alschuler shares how her philosophy of medicine has evolved — from recognizing the innate healing intelligence within each person to embracing technology and data as powerful, but incomplete, tools. She discusses the importance of terrain-based care, personalized nutrition, and the role of natural agents like medicinal mushrooms in complementing conventional therapies. She invites us to preserve compassion, connection, and curiosity as medicine grows more data-driven and digitally advanced.

👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include

→ The evolving role of naturopathic and integrative oncology in modern cancer care

→ How terrain-based medicine strengthens resilience and recovery

→ Why measurement and personalization matter in nutritional medicine

→ The importance of preserving humanity in a data-driven medical world

→ Natural agents and the science of immune support, including medicinal mushrooms

About Dr. Lise Alschuler

Lise Alschuler, ND, FABNO, is a board-certified naturopathic oncologist, author, and Professor of Clinical Medicine at Sonoran University of Health Sciences. She also serves as Associate Director of the Fellowship in Integrative Medicine at the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine.

Dr. Alschuler is internationally recognized for her leadership in integrative oncology and evidence-based natural medicine. She co-authored The Definitive Guide to Cancer and The Definitive Guide to Thriving After Cancer and co-hosts Five to Thrive Live!, a radio show dedicated to helping people create wellness in the face of cancer.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of the Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the Speaker Series

01:26 Meet Dr. Lise Alschuler

02:55 Her path to naturopathic and integrative oncology

05:58 Nutrition, measurement, and the science of healing

09:25 Terrain-based and personalized approaches to care

12:11 Preserving humanity in a data-driven medical world

18:33 Resilience, meaning, and growth through cancer

21:42 Integrative therapies and IV vitamin C

22:53 Closing reflections + thank you to Empower Pharmacy

Topics we explore in this episode include

integrative oncology, Lise Alschuler, naturopathic medicine, terrain-based care, functional medicine, personalized nutrition, Sonoran University, Andrew Weil Center, medicinal mushrooms, vitamin C therapy, AI in healthcare, whole-person healing, cancer resilience, human connection in medicine, integrative oncology conference

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“There’s no wrong medicine — only the wrong time to apply it. The best care happens when every discipline works together for the good of the patient.” —Dr. Paul Anderson

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake sits down with Dr. Paul S. Anderson, a leading educator and clinician in integrative and naturopathic medicine. They explore the evolution of integrative oncology — from its early roots in orthomolecular medicine to today’s terrain-based, science-driven approaches that unite conventional and natural therapies.

Dr. Anderson shares insights from decades of clinical experience and research, including his work in a US-NIH-funded human trial studying IV and integrative therapies for cancer patients. He discusses how medicine is shifting toward a model that treats the whole person — addressing biochemistry, immunity, environment, and lifestyle — to improve outcomes and quality of life.

👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include:

→ How integrative oncology bridges the gap between conventional and naturopathic medicine

→ The growing scientific understanding of tumor microenvironments and “terrain”

→ Why quality of life is inseparable from treatment success

→ How IV vitamin C and other natural therapies support anti-angiogenesis and recovery

→ Why collaboration — not competition — is the future of cancer care

About Dr. Paul S. Anderson

Dr. Anderson is a recognized educator and clinician in integrative and naturopathic medicine with a focus on complex infectious, chronic, and oncologic illness. With more than three decades of clinical experience, he also served as head of the interventional arm of a US-NIH-funded human research trial using IV and integrative therapies in cancer patients.

He founded Advanced Medical Therapies in Seattle, Washington, a clinic specializing in cancer and chronic diseases, and now collaborates with clinics and hospitals across the U.S. and abroad.

Formerly Professor of Pharmacology and Clinical Medicine at Bastyr University and Chief of IV Services for the Bastyr Oncology Research Center, Dr. Anderson is co-author of Outside the Box Cancer Therapies (Hay House) with Dr. Mark Stengler, among other publications. Through his continuing education platform ConsultDrA.com and Advanced Applications in Medical Practice (AAMP) conferences, he brings next-level learning to healthcare professionals worldwide.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the Speaker Series

01:26 Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Paul Anderson

02:53 How integrative oncology has evolved

04:57 Patient care beyond the tumor — the role of wellness

09:31 The science behind terrain-based oncology

12:34 Environmental triggers and rising cancer rates

15:18 Returning to fundamentals: lifestyle, sleep, and nutrition

16:56 The promise of mistletoe and immune therapies

20:39 Collaboration between integrative and conventional oncology

21:31 Closing reflections + thank you to Empower Pharmacy

Topics we explore in this episode include:

integrative oncology, cancer care reimagined, Paul Anderson, Ron Hunninghake, naturopathic medicine, IV vitamin C, mistletoe therapy, metabolic medicine, angiogenesis, tumor microenvironment, functional medicine, cancer prevention, terrain-based health, holistic oncology, patient-centered care

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

"Cancer is not a single-cause disease. It’s a web of factors — metabolic, mitochondrial, emotional — and each patient needs a personalized path to healing." —Dr. Pradeep Nair

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Dr. Ron Hunninghake speaks with Dr. Manickam Mahalingam, founder of the Mirakle Integrative Health Center in Coimbatore, India, and Dr. Pradeep MK Nair, Chief Medical Officer and Head of Research at Mirakle. They share how their center has pioneered an integrative model of cancer care that blends vitamin C therapy, metabolic medicine, low-dose chemotherapy, antiparasitic protocols, and advanced technologies like oncothermia. Their patient-centered approach has offered hope and healing for people with advanced cancers from around the world.

This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include:

→ How Mirakle Integrative Health Center was founded and why it’s making a global impact

→ Why cancer requires personalized, terrain-based approaches rather than one-size-fits-all care

→ The role of vitamin C, mitochondrial health, and metabolic therapies in treatment

→ How hope, confidence, and environment influence outcomes as much as technology

Meet the Guests

Manickam Mahalingam, PhD, is the founder of the Mirakle Integrative Health Center in Coimbatore, India, and the innovator of the Mirakle liposomal vitamin C drink. His vision is to shift the course of cancer treatment through integrative, patient-centered approaches.

Pradeep MK Nair, MD, is the Chief Medical Officer and Head of Research at Mirakle. There, he develops personalized, multidisciplinary protocols that combine modern oncology, naturopathy, Siddha, and other systems of medicine. His work focuses on metabolic and mitochondrial health, precision medicine, and patient empowerment.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series

01:44 Introducing Dr. Manickam Mahalingam and Dr. Pradeep Nair

03:21 Founding of Mirakle Integrative Health Center

05:01 Why integrative oncology must address multiple terrains

06:22 Integrating low-dose chemotherapy with metabolic therapy

08:30 Patient outcomes and individualized protocols

11:42 Antiparasitic and antifungal approaches in cancer care

16:44 Advanced technologies: oncothermia and HIFU

18:56 Building hope and positivity into the patient experience

20:50 Lifestyle training and family-centered care

25:52 Expanding access and global word-of-mouth growth

27:00 Looking ahead: spreading integrative models worldwide

Topics we explore in this episode include:

cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, Manickam Mahalingam, Pradeep Nair, Mirakle Integrative Health Center, vitamin C therapy, liposomal vitamin C, metabolic medicine, mitochondrial dysfunction, oncothermia, HIFU, ozone therapy, antiparasitic therapy, cancer remission, terrain-based medicine, India cancer care, holistic oncology

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

“Toxins are everywhere — in our food, water, and air. They damage our mitochondria, disrupt metabolism, and open the door to disease.” —Dr. Richard Cheng

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Richard Cheng, MD, PhD, ABAARM — physician, researcher, and editor of Orthomolecular Medicine News Service — to explore how environmental toxins and mitochondrial dysfunction are driving today’s rise in chronic illness and cancer.

Dr. Cheng shares how decades of research have revealed the link between toxins, aging, and cancer and why supporting mitochondrial health and reducing environmental exposure may be one of the most effective preventive strategies in modern medicine.

👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include:

→ Why environmental toxins are the top global health threat

→ How mitochondrial dysfunction connects aging, cancer, and chronic disease

→ The overlooked role of heavy metals, seed oils, and ultra-processed foods

→ Practical ways to reduce exposure and support detoxification

→ How vitamin C protects against oxidative damage and supports cell repair

Meet Richard Cheng, MD, PhD, ABAARM

Dr. Richard Cheng is a physician, researcher, and expert in anti-aging and integrative oncology. He trained in internal medicine in Shanghai before earning his PhD in biochemistry and molecular biology from the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. He later completed fellowships at the National Cancer Institute (NIH) and the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M). As editor of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Dr. Cheng advances education and research around nutrient-based and metabolic therapies for cancer prevention and treatment.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + intro to the Speaker Series

01:44 Dr. Ron Hunninghake welcomes Dr. Richard Cheng

03:03 Dr. Cheng’s background and training

05:03 Cancer, aging, and mitochondrial function

08:29 Environmental toxins and chronic disease

13:26 Global rise in early-onset cancer

14:18 Ten root drivers of disease

16:26 Heavy metals, seed oils, and ultra-processed foods

18:35 Microplastics and environmental exposure

21:18 Detox strategies and the role of vitamin C

24:25 Orthomolecular medicine and cellular repair

26:10 Closing thoughts + conference invitation

Topics We Explore in This Episode Include:

cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, Richard Cheng, mitochondrial dysfunction, environmental toxins, heavy metals and health, seed oils and oxidative stress, vitamin C therapy, orthomolecular medicine, detox strategies, functional medicine, chronic illness prevention, anti-aging research, Cancer Care Reimagined Conference

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

"The disease is the oxidation. Oxidative stress isn’t what leads to disease — it is the disease." —Dr. Thomas Levy

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, sits down with Thomas Levy, MD, JD, cardiologist, attorney, and internationally known author, to explore his provocative thesis: that all disease stems from a single root cause — excess oxidation inside the cell. Drawing from decades of clinical experience and research, Dr. Levy explains how toxins, infections, and heavy metals deplete antioxidants like vitamin C and drive inflammation, and why restoring redox balance is key to healing.

👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include:

→ Why oxidation, not just oxidative stress, is the defining feature of disease

→ How oral infections contribute to heart disease and even breast cancer

→ The role of vitamin C and the immune system in resolving inflammation

→ How toxins, spike proteins, and heavy metals accelerate chronic illness

Meet Thomas Levy, MD, JD

Thomas Levy, MD, JD, is a board-certified cardiologist and attorney. He is recognized globally for his groundbreaking work on the role of vitamin C and antioxidants in disease prevention and treatment. Dr. Levy is the author of numerous books, including Curing the Incurable and Primal Panacea, and continues to lecture worldwide on integrative approaches to health and chronic disease.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series

02:04 Dr. Thomas Levy joins the podcast

02:30 The only cause of disease: oxidation

05:30 Cardiovascular disease as an example

10:27 Oral infections and coronary artery disease

13:46 Inflammation as the true driver of heart disease

15:57 Chronic disease, autoimmunity, and toxins

19:15 Heavy metals and the heart

21:43 Why spike proteins hit the heart hardest

22:10 Looking ahead to the Cancer Care Reimagined Conference

Topics we explore in this episode include:

cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, Thomas Levy, oxidative stress, oxidation and disease, vitamin C therapy, oral infections and heart disease, inflammation and atherosclerosis, autoimmune disease root cause, toxins and heavy metals, spike protein health effects, functional medicine, orthomolecular medicine, chronic illness prevention

Disclaimer

The information contained on the Real Health Podcast and the resources mentioned are for educational purposes only. They are not intended as and shall not be understood or construed as medical or health advice. The information contained on this podcast is not a substitute for medical or health advice from a professional who is aware of the facts and circumstances of your individual situation. Information provided by hosts and guests on the Real Health Podcast or the use of any products or services mentioned does not create a practitioner-patient relationship between you and any persons affiliated with this podcast.

"If we can reset the memory of the stem cell back to zero, we can help the body create healthy cells instead of cancer cells." —Dr. Ilyes Baghli

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, speaks with Ilyes Baghli, MD, President of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine, about his groundbreaking hybrid orthomolecular protocol. From Algeria to Japan, Dr. Baghli has championed integrative and nutritional approaches that target mitochondria, stem cells, and even parasitic pathways to reimagine how cancer can be treated.

👉 This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference this November.

Highlights include:

→ Why mitochondria and stem cells are key in resetting cancer’s progression

→ How antiparasitic therapies show promise as anticancer agents

→ The role of nutrients like vitamin C, vitamin D, magnesium, and zinc in cellular repair

→ How Algeria became a leader in embracing integrative, orthomolecular medicine

Meet Ilyes Baghli, MD

Ilyes Baghli, MD is a physician based in Algiers and the current President of the Dr. Ilyes Baghli is the current President of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine (ISOM), a global organization founded in 1973 that promotes research, education, and clinical practice in nutritional and metabolic medicine. He has organized training programs and international collaborations to advance orthomolecular and integrative therapies worldwide. His research and leadership have helped introduce hybrid orthomolecular protocols—combining nutrition, fasting, lifestyle, and repurposed medicines—into academic and clinical practice.

Sponsor

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined Conference. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series

01:44 Introducing Dr. Ilyes Baghli

02:34 Early journey into orthomolecular medicine

05:55 Building the Algerian Society for Nutrition & Orthomolecular Medicine

07:19 Why Algeria embraced integrative therapies

14:01 Introducing the hybrid orthomolecular protocol

15:16 Targeting mitochondria, stem cells, and cancer memory

20:45 Nutrient cofactors and the role of vitamin D, C, zinc, and magnesium

26:23 Antiparasitic medicines as anticancer therapies

32:33 Diet, fasting, and detoxification in cancer care

36:07 Global collaborations and the future of integrative oncology

Topics we explore in this episode include:

cancer care reimagined, integrative oncology, orthomolecular medicine, Ilyes Baghli, mitochondria and cancer, stem cell reset, fenbendazole anticancer research, vitamin C cancer therapy, vitamin D and immunity, metabolic theory of cancer, hybrid orthomolecular protocol, Algeria integrative medicine, global oncology collaboration, terrain-based medicine

Disclaimer

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“Medicine is not just about treating disease — it’s about helping people discover health.” —Dr. Drew Rose

In this episode of the Real Health Podcast, Ron Hunninghake, MD, welcomes Drew Rose, DO, Riordan Clinic’s new Clinical Medical Director. A Wichita native, Dr. Drew brings deep training in internal and osteopathic medicine, years of experience as a hospitalist, and a passion for integrative, patient-centered care. He shares his personal journey from early health challenges, to global rotations in Kenya, to the frontlines of COVID care, and why he chose to return home to Wichita and join Riordan Clinic.

Highlights include:

→ How Dr. Drew's own health experiences shaped his pursuit of medicine

→ Why osteopathic principles align so closely with Riordan Clinic’s mission

→ Lessons from practicing global medicine in Chicago and rural Kenya

→ What serving in the ICU during COVID taught him about the challenges of one-size-fits-all care

→ How he hopes to serve patients and the Wichita community in his new role

About Drew Rose, DO

Drew Rose, DO, is Riordan Clinic’s Clinical Medical Director. A Wichita native, he is board-certified in internal medicine with advanced training in osteopathic principles and practices. He brings years of experience as a hospitalist and in global health, along with a strong commitment to supporting patients in their health beyond disease management.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introducing Dr. Drew Rose

01:34 Growing up in Wichita and early health experiences

03:16 Discovering osteopathy and the four tenets of care

06:22 Global medicine in Chicago and international rotations

08:49 Lessons from Kenya and rural health perspectives

10:44 Practicing as a hospitalist during COVID

13:42 Why individualized, root-cause care matters

16:02 Co-learning with patients at Riordan Clinic

19:54 Coming home to Wichita and serving the community

22:54 Looking ahead Dr. Drew's vision for patient care

Topics we explore in this episode include:

osteopathic medicine, integrative medicine, patient-centered care, Wichita healthcare, functional medicine, internal medicine, COVID ICU care, Kajiado Kenya health, phlebotomy, global medicine, Riordan Clinic providers, doctor-patient relationship, preventive health, co-learning in medicine