The Revenue Formula

The Revenue Formula

By Toni Hohlbein & Raul PorojanBusinessManagement
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The Revenue Formula episodes

  • The unfair advantage: Why every founder needs a brand

    There's an unfair advantage some startups and companies have. It's a competitive advantage that can't be copied. And it's on you should build as early as possible - a founder brand.

    In todays episode, we talk about our experience with building a founder brand, what we've learned from others and much much more.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:47) - Building a Founder Brand
  • (07:27) - You need this
  • (08:45) - Blank page problem
  • (11:11) - The Importance of Consistency
  • (15:28) - Distribution and Trust
  • (17:04) - The reason LinkedIn is interesting
  • (19:33) - The other option
  • (25:27) - What will you talk about

  • This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

    You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

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    35 min
  • How This AE Built a $1M Pipeline Through LinkedIn (With Laura Erdem)

    We've found a salesperson who's successfully sourcing 30% of her pipeline herself. How? Using LinkedIn.

    Laura shares her playbook, giving you practical tips to get going and much more.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:27) - Welcome
  • (02:53) - Challenges of Traditional Outbound Sales
  • (05:07) - The Shift to Social Selling
  • (05:57) - "You're not Gartner"
  • (10:40) - How much pipeline? And how do you calculate it?
  • (16:57) - Building a Social Selling Playbook
  • (20:32) - Getting founder support
  • (23:19) - Who to get on the team
  • (24:42) - How do we get started
  • (26:39) - Figure out the who and the what
  • (28:41) - Forget the POV
  • (31:54) - And now, book a demo!
  • (37:06) - But that deal is mine..
  • (41:25) - Laura's secret tricks
  • (45:54) - Concluding Thoughts and Final Tips

  • This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

    You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

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    48 min
  • VCs hate services - here’s why SaaS shouldn't

    Carta. HubSpot. Brandwatch. Rippling. These companies, and many others, offer services (even though VCs don't like it). 

    It's not about creating a services business, it's about using it to acquire, retain and grow customers. Here's what we get into:

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:08) - Why services aren't attractive
  • (04:54) - And why services are awesome
  • (11:46) - Services as an acquisition channel
  • (12:25) - First example: Carta
  • (16:34) - 2nd: Rippling
  • (21:24) - HubSpot's Onboarding

  • This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

    You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

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    33 min
  • This founder shares his churn problem (with Adam Robinson)

    Everyone talks openly about raising a new round or closing a massive deal. But churn, crickets. Except for one guy, Adam Robinson.

    And he shares not only his churn problem, but how he solved it, how he's building a solid awareness engine and, how he built Rb2b.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (07:02) - October 2022, the first LinkedIn post
  • (08:53) - Finding his voice
  • (11:15) - The first viral post
  • (13:51) - No product was decided yet
  • (16:05) - The product was not exciting...
  • (17:59) - 3 weeks after launch
  • (22:58) - The Impact of Transparency on Business
  • (23:49) - Churn: The thing people won't talk about (when it's bad)
  • (27:23) - Churn spiked to 15%
  • (29:49) - A few realizations
  • (36:37) - The strange issue
  • (45:05) - Confrontational Marketing
  • (48:10) - Final Thoughts and Farewell

  • This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

    You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

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    49 min
  • The new outbound playbook we used to book 500 meetings

    Outbound is being declared dead every week. AI is ruining outbound. Every business struggle to get it to work. But, we managed to get it working (again).

    In today's episode, we share the new playbook for outbound we used to book 500 meetings in just a few months, with 3 SDRs.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:38) - Where outbound started
  • (06:18) - AI SDRs
  • (09:29) - Text is dead
  • (11:22) - A different outreach
  • (15:06) - The one that worked
  • (16:45) - This won't scale
  • (20:00) - LinkedIn and Email Outreach
  • (22:11) - AI Integration in Outreach
  • (25:00) - Account Selection and Targeting
  • (30:12) - True sales and marketing collaboration

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    35 min
  • Don't create a category, do this instead (with Kyle Coleman)

    Kyle is back on the show - this time we grill him on category creation, and finding a problem to market instead.

    He should know, he saw a category and problem get created at Clari, and is running the playbook again at Copy.ai.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:45) - The TLDR of Kyle's presentation at Exit5
  • (03:27) - Are you differentiated?
  • (06:44) - How are you going to get the sale funded?
  • (09:42) - The stupid & simple questions to ask
  • (15:30) - Practical Implementation and Results
  • (18:55) - Am I the GTM bloat??
  • (23:18) - The Copy AI Pitch
  • (25:03) - Creating a Category Narrative
  • (26:23) - The Lightning Strike
  • (27:42) - Focusing on the Problem vs. Category
  • (30:24) - What changes in the day to day?
  • (32:33) - Lessons Learned at Clari
  • (38:59) - Connecting Positioning to Demand Generation
  • (43:01) - The AI Tailwinds

  • Sources & mentions
    • Brendan Huffords TL;DR of Kyle's presentation
    • Play bigger, Christopher Lochhead & the category pirates
    • Drive by ExitFive
    • Check the framework here

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    46 min
  • 3 Career Hacks You Should Know About

    Here's two guys without a job doling out their top 3 career hacks. Don't worry, they had jobs when they used the hacks - and some of them they just observed.

    But they had one thing in common: They worked. Give it a listen and use it to guide your teams or your own career trajectory.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:52) - 1: Chaos is a ladder
  • (10:47) - 2: He who controls the spice controls the universe
  • (11:39) - Own a number
  • (14:52) - Efficiency is a Superpower
  • (16:09) - If you can't own a number now, own this
  • (17:25) - Challenges and Strategies in RevOps
  • (20:50) - 3: Last person standing

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    29 min
  • AI in Action: GTM use cases that work (with Andy Mowat)

    Do you need an AI strategy? Do AI SDRs work? And if they don’t, what does?


    This and more we talk about with Andy Mowat

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (05:47) - RevOps vs GTM Ops and retitling
  • (11:10) - AI Usecases in the GTM
  • (12:18) - The main sales usecase
  • (14:15) - AI SDRs: Efficiency vs. Conversion
  • (19:02) - AI that actually works in sales
  • (23:06) - AI and data
  • (26:08) - Generative AI and Data Normalization
  • (30:05) - Future of AI in Business

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    38 min
  • Growblocks is shutting down: here's what we've learned

    Growblocks is done, but we're continuing the podcast - so we thought we'd share some of the things we've learned along the way in this episode.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:43) - Growblocks shutting down
  • (03:36) - Why it didn't work
  • (04:36) - The people we were selling to
  • (07:56) - Internal Selling and Champion Challenges
  • (13:16) - Category Creation and Market Positioning
  • (15:50) - Impact of SaaS and AI on the Market
  • (19:55) - Consulting vs. Product Focus
  • (22:48) - Building Trust Through Branding
  • (26:24) - Effective Outbound Strategies
  • (28:29) - Future Plans and Show Continuation

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    32 min
  • Here are two simple ways to reduce burn

    Need to be more efficient in your GTM? Then it's time to get serious about your burn rate.

    In this episode, Mikkel and Toni break down some tactics you can start now to get your finances in line.

    • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:42) - Reducing Burn
  • (09:02) - Mastering Payment Terms for Cashflow
  • (12:07) - Strategic Pay Raises and Salary Bands
  • (14:32) - Effective Use of SPIFFs
  • (16:31) - Navigating Budget Challenges in Recruitment
  • (18:47) - Optimizing Sales Commissions and Performance
  • (23:12) - Balancing Owned, Earned, and Paid Marketing Channels
  • (27:28) - Reevaluating Tool Investments for Cost Efficiency

  • ***

    Connect with us


    🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

    ✉️ Newsletter: https://www.revletter.io/

    📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
    💬 Contact: [email protected]

    33 min

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