THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST

Episode 3! A big recap of BU 5k, where Ben ran 13:11, NBGP, where he ran the 3k, and a race in Chicago where he paced. We also discuss current track news such as Millrose & 52 guys breaking four minutes in the mile at the same meet. 

About THE CALL ROOM: Have you ever wondered what it looks like to train as a professional distance runner? What the day-to-day life looks like? How to handle setbacks, failure, adversity, and doubts? How to set goals, train for them, and execute them on race day? As outsiders, we see remarkable athletes accomplish remarkable things every year. We don't see the behind-the-scenes of what went into that remarkable performance. We don't see or understand the hours of hard work, struggle, doubt, etc. The Running Effect is here to bring you an inside look at all these things with the man, the myth, the legend, Ben Flanagan.

Ben Flanagan has cemented himself as one of the best Canadian runners of all time in his short four years of being a professional runner. He is the Canadian half-marathon record holder with a time of 61:00 and has won the prestigious Falmouth Road Race three years in a row (gaining the name "The King of Falmouth" in the process). In addition, he won the 2018 NCAA 10k title while competing for the University of Michigan. Ben is currently sponsored by On Running and is a member of VNTC based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.

Over the next two months, Ben and I will dive deep into his indoor campaign leading into The Ten, presented by Sound Running. We will go into his training, racing, mindset, and answer your questions along the way!

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Back on the podcast is the one and only Irene Riggs. Since having Irene on the podcast after NXN, she won the USATF U20 Cross Country Championships, and then a few weeks later, ran a national indoor record in the 3200m running 9:45. Irene will be repping the red, white, and blue in Bathurst, Australia on February 18th. Irene also won the 2022-2023 National Girls Cross Country Player of the Year due to her athletic excellence, academic achievements, and exemplary character. 

In today's conversation, Irene dives deep into this past month and all of the adventures that came with it. We dive into her training, racing, mindset, and many other fun subjects. We top off the episode answering your questions! Irene is always so much fun to talk with, and we have both a fun and inspiring conversation. I hope you enjoy it as much we did!

Until next time, enjoy my insightful conversation with the perspicacious and ever-inspiring, Irene Riggs!

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Your favorite runners return to the podcast, Lex and Leo Young. Just a few weeks ago, they competed in the U20 race at the 2023 USA XC National meet. Leo ended up down a stacked field to win his first national title; this will send him to Australia to rep the red, white, and blue on a global stage. Lex placed a valiant 12th coming off of an injury; he is fully focused on running some fast times on the track very soon. 

This conversation is one like any other we've had: full of insights, banter, and many laughs. I always thoroughly enjoy my conversations with Lex and Leo, and I know you will too! 

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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Episode 146

Today on the podcast, I have the great privilege of speaking with the one and only, Ky Robinson. Ky competes for Stanford University, where he has slowly cemented himself as one of the top runners in the NCAA. Not only is Ky a force to be reckoned with in the NCAA, but Ky is also one of the top runners in his home country, Australia, having represented them at global championships, including the Eugune World Championships last summer, where he competed in the 5k. Just in the span of the short few months of indoor track, Ky has run 13:11 in the 5k, and 3:55 in the mile. Ky was also recently selected to represent his country Australia at the 2023 World XC Championships that will take place in Bathurst, Australia, this February 18. 

This discussion with Ky was an absolute blast. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it, and am confident you will, too. Ky dives deep into running for Stanford University and all aspects of that experience, from the workouts to the culture to specific races. We also go into his upbringing in the sport in Australia and his decision to come over to the US for college. We also go into this upcoming year and his outlook on it, including the 2023 World XC Championships coming up next weekend. 

Lastly, Ky answers some listener questions, and we start to discuss the possibilities of a Spikeball dynasty in Palo Alto, this Fall. Needless to say, tune in! 

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Today on the podcast, I have the great privilege of speaking with newly minted NCAA Record Holder Dylan Jacobs. Just last week, Dylan set an American collegiate indoor record in the 5,000-meter run, running 13:11.01. Dylan competes for the University of Tennessee, where he has cemented himself as one of the top runners in the nation. Prior to his time at Tennessee, Dylan won the 2022 NCAA Men's 10k title while competing for the University of Notre Dame. Before the NCAA, Dylan won the 2017 Footlocker Nationals Cross Country Championship. 

In this conversation, Dylan and I dive deep into his upbringing in this sport all the way up to dissecting his incredible 13:11 record-breaking performance. Dylan was a ton of fun to talk to, and I left the conversation both enlightened and inspired. I was fascinated by Dylan's work ethic and mindset, that has led to his dominance in the NCAA. We also talk about some fun subjects like college football, living in the mountains, and answer some fun listener questions. Dylan and I had a ton of fun discussing a plethora of topics, and hope you will tune in to listen to our conversation! 

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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Fresh off of a 3000m PB (7:34), Mario Garcia Romo, aka The Spanish Rocket, appears on the podcast. In high school, Mario had personal bests of 1:50.66 in the 800m, 3:42.35 in the 1500m, 8:12 in the 3000m. Mario then went to Ole Miss, where he quickly made a name for himself as one of the top runners in the nation. Mario was a 7-time All-American & 6-time SEC Champion. Perhaps the pinnacle of his NCAA years, Mario won the mile at the 2022 Indoor Track and Field Championships. Having just recently graduated, Mario signed with On Running and placed fourth at the 2022 World Championships in Eugene, Oregon, with a historic time of 3:30.2 in the 1500m. That same summer, he placed third at the European Championships also in the 1500m. 

In this conversation, Mario and I dive deep into his upbringing in the sport. We discuss what running in Spain is like the, ultimately, his decision to come to the US for the NCAA. We go through his years at Ole Miss and the many accomplishments that came with those years. Mario then takes us through deciding to sign with OAC and what the experiences of last summer were like. We lastly talk about his goals for 2023 and much more! This conversation was a ton of fun and I walked away inspired by Mario's story and dedication to the sport. 

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I have the extreme privilege of speaking with Nicholas Thompson today. Nicholas is the current CEO at The Atlantic and the former Editor-in-Chief at Wired. He graduated from Stanford University, receiving degrees in Earth Systems, Political Science, and Economics.

In addition to his accomplishments in business and life, Nick is quite the accomplished runner. On April 14, 2021, he set the American record in the 50k for the 45-49 age group after finishing the race in 3:04:36 (5:56 pace for 31.06 miles). He holds a marathon PR of 2:29, ranking him as one of the top master's runners in the world at the time.

Perhaps, most impressive, Nick commutes to work by running every day through the heart of New York City. I loved exploring this practice with him, how it came about, and what it means to him.

Nick and I discuss his upbringing in the sport, his marathon journey, run-commuting, and what lessons running has taught him. We also dive into his years at Philips Academy and Stanford University, questions surrounding building a strong culture and leading a successful team of individuals at The Atlantic, staying present, what books have been most impactful for him, and the principles of good writing. Lastly, he takes us through making breakfast for his kids every morning and what he'd make Gordon Ramsay for dinner.

This conversation was a ton of fun, and very insightful. I learned a lot from Nick and left this conversation a better version of myself. I'm confident you will be inspired by Nick and how he lives his life, ultimately impacting you to live a better life.

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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Back like he never left, Connor Burns returns on the podcast to give the inside scoop. After a disappointing end to his XC season at NXN, Connor has bounced back better than ever and is putting in world-class work in hopes of achieving world-class results. 

In this episode, you'll hear all about Connor's training, mindset, plans for this upcoming month, and the ideal post-race NYC meal. We go into a lot in this short, but packed 25min episode and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Through Connor's personal experiences and knowledge, you will gain a deeper understanding of the mental and physical components of running and how to apply them to enhance your own running journey and ultimately improve the quality of your life.

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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Today on the podcast, I have the great privilege of speaking with American distance running legend, Bob Kennedy. Bob won two OHSAA XC State Titles, was the 1987 national junior champion in cross country, and to this day holds the OHSAA Record for 1600m at 4:05:13. He then went on to The University of Indania, where he won the NCAA Men's Cross Country Championships becoming one of a few true freshman ever to win the event. Over the ensuing years, he won many more NCAA titles. After his collegiate years, he competed at the highest level making it to the Olympics more than once. He once held the American record in the 3000 meters (7:30.84), 2 miles (8:11.59), and the 5000 meters (12:58.21). Bob is undoubtedly one of the greatest American distance runners of all time. 

In this conversation, Bob and I dive deep into his upbringing in the sport and the different races that are most significant to him and his career. We discuss lessons he's learned, the attributes he sees most consistently in high-performing individuals, and much more! This conversation was a ton of fun, and I really enjoyed going back in time through this remarkable time period of Bob's life. Through Bob's personal experiences and knowledge, you will gain a deeper understanding of the mental and physical components of running and how to apply them to enhance your own running journey and ultimately improve the quality of your life.

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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Fresh of making his first US National Team, Kole Mathison returns to the podcast to recap this incredible race. The last time I spoke with Kole was fresh off of his first XC National Title just over a month ago. Today, I sit down with Kole after this monumental achievement of making a US National team. 

In this episode, we discuss his build-up to the race, preparation, mindset, passport stories, favorite drip from the USA kit, and what making his first US National Team means to him. This episode was very fun, insightful, and even impactful. Kole's enthusiasm for the sport is contagious, and I'm confident that you'll walk away from this conversation inspired to chase after your goals all the more. 

You can listen wherever you find your podcasts by searching, "The Running Effect Podcast." If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it. If you really enjoy the podcast, consider sharing it on social media to spread the word!

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