What happens when justice hits a jurisdictional wall?

In this episode, I sit down with Jerome Lucero, former police chief and three-time governor of the Pueblo of Zia tribe to unpack the tangled web of tribal law enforcement, federal oversight and the devastating consequences of legal fragmentation on Indigenous lands.

From the landmark Supreme Court decisions in United States v. Cooley and McGirt v. Oklahoma to a haunting case of one of New Mexico's top fugitives being able to roam freely on tribal lands, Jerome shares firsthand insights into how sovereignty victories can both empower and complicate justice.

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At just 27 years old, fighter pilot Kim Campbell was flying a combat mission over Baghdad when a barrage of anti-aircraft fire struck her A-10 Warthog. Her hydraulics failed instantly. Ground troops shifted from receiving air support to preparing a rescue. But instead of ejecting, Kim did the unthinkable—manually flying the crippled aircraft for 45 harrowing minutes before landing safely in southern Iraq.

That flight earned her the nickname “Killer Chick.” But Kim joins me to share the deeper story, including what trauma taught her about resilience, the preciousness of human life, and the power of teams—lessons that apply far beyond the battlefield, from leadership to family life.

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Morgan Scafe joins me to recount her seven-year journey—beginning in high school—that started with abuse by her best friend's father and ended in his conviction for kidnapping and sexual abuse. Morgan was just eight years old when he assaulted her in the house on Carpenter Road in rural Michigan. After years of struggling with the trauma and its effects, a television program inspired her to speak out—slipping a note under the door of a high school teacher. By her twenties, he had been convicted of kidnapping and sexual abuse, and Morgan’s path toward healing had begun. We talk about grooming, silence, and the freedom that comes—not just from a trial, but from reclaiming your voice.

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Brett Talley and I continue our exploration of the monsters that societies breathe into existence—creatures shaped by cautionary tales, cultural trauma, and collective imagination. From Korean folklore and Greek myths of divine punishment through transformation into what the English called werewolves, to modern specters like Slenderman, we trace how these beings reflect universal truths across time and geography.

These monsters don’t just embody fear—they illuminate our hopes, boundaries, and moral compasses. We also examine their counterparts: figures like Sabe, honored in Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi traditions, who guide us toward honesty and light.

Whether feared or revered, these beings serve as signposts—reminding us of who we are and who we strive to become. Because no matter what you fear about monsters, we discuss, there’s always a lesson worth learning from them.

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There are a lot of monsters in the world — and a lot of them we breathe into existence. Brett Talley, a horror writer and co-host of The Prosecutors podcast, joins me to discuss the monsters we create.

We discuss how, in many ways, we create these monsters and the folklore around them because we need them. From the Wendigo and Slenderman to zombies and werewolves, we explore how monsters — some real, some imagined, and in some cases, hard to determine — serve a real societal purpose as we use them as allegories, warning signs, moral tools and psychological buffers.

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Julia Cowley, a retired FBI profiler and the host of The Consult podcast, and I set out to discuss the University of Idaho murders and the killer of four college students, Bryan Kohberger. But something strange happened when we began discussing the survivors who were in the house.

It was during a week when a beloved podcaster, friend, and researcher for this podcast died. In this emotionally charged bonus, we explore grief, trauma, and the importance of kindness within the true crime community and in life. Our conversation touches on how loss, children and age have changed the way we view true crime stories.

NOTE: In July 2025, those roommates, Dylan Mortensen and Bethany Funke, broke their silence at Kohberger's sentencing in the murders of 20-year-olds Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin, and 21-year-olds Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen. Use the links above to hear from them in their own words.

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In the early morning hours of November 13, 2022, someone entered a house just off the University of Idaho campus in a brazen home invasion that left four University of Idaho students — Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen and Kaylee Goncalves — dead. Julia Cowley, a retired FBI profiler and host of The Consult podcast, joins me to continue on conversation about what we can learn from the behavior of the real-life nightmare that is the suspect, Bryan Kohberger.

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In the early morning hours of November 13, 2022, some entered a house just off the University of Idaho campus and stabbed four students to death. Months later, a suspect was identified. This year, he pled guilty to the charges without giving any hint why he committed the crimes or what made the victims desirable targets. Julia Cowley, a retired FBI profiler and host of The Consult podcast, joins me to discuss what we can learn from the behavior of the real-life nightmare that is the suspect, Bryan Kohberger.

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Criminal defense attorney Matthew Tympanick joins me to examine the boundaries of legal strategy in three high-profile cases — Karen Read, Bryan Kohberger and Richard Allen — and low-profile ones as well. Tympanick discusses how jury selection shaped the outcome of the Read trial, the pressures defense attorneys face in the public eye, and the ethical challenges of balancing media presence with legal practice.

We also discuss the impact of jury composition on trial outcomes, defense strategies in cases with intense public scrutiny, the role of attorneys in shaping public narratives, client relationship management and Tympanick's approach to transparency and professional boundaries.

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In this episode, I sit down with veteran journalist and author Mark Pinsky, whose career has taken him from high-profile crime reporting to covering racial justice and religion. Mark shares how his political awakening at Duke University in the 1960s and the civil rights movement shaped his worldview, how his interest in social justice led him to cover crime and religion, and how he’s navigated the tightrope between advocacy and objectivity throughout his work.

We talk about his reporting on landmark cases — including his rare jailhouse interview with Ted Bundy, the Jeffrey MacDonald murder trial, and the 1979 Greensboro Massacre. Mark opens up about how race, class, and bias influence the criminal justice system, and the ways journalists have to balance empathy with detachment when covering violent crime.

We also dive into his coverage of televangelism, the political rise of white evangelicals, and how shifts in grassroots attitudes foreshadowed major political changes. Along the way, we discuss wrongful convictions, the impact of projects like the Innocence Project, and the role of media as a kind of “last-resort appeals court” for injustice. It’s a wide-ranging conversation about values, choices, and the lived experiences that shape a journalist’s craft — and the human stories that keep us doing this work.

This episode includes a tribute to Jessica Olive Cash, a researcher for this podcast and The Prosecutors Podcast. Jessica was a true gift to me and the team and will be missed.

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