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Today I’m interviewing Christine Li, the founder of Mentaya, a platform designed to simplify the process of out-of-network billing for mental health services. Christine shares her journey from working in tech at Google to launching Mentaya, driven by her passion for mental health and the desire to create a more accessible system for both providers and clients. The discussion covers the importance of understanding out-of-network benefits, the features of the Mentaya platform, and how it helps therapists and clients navigate the complexities of insurance claims. The conversation also highlights success stories from practices that have effectively utilized the platform, addresses challenges with specific insurance providers, and compares Mentaya with competitors in the market.

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PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

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Christine Li, founder and CEO of Mentaya, is driven by a commitment to mental health and a deep belief in empowering therapists. She started Mentaya to tackle the headaches of out-of-network billing, making it easier for therapists to collect their full cash rate while enabling clients to use insurance to get up to 80% back on private pay therapy.

Christine believes therapists can absolutely build thriving, cash-pay private practices while playing a key role in expanding access to mental healthcare.

Before Mentaya, Christine was a product manager at Google, where she focused on creating impactful, user-centered products in Google AI and Youtube.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

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We’re talking about money again, everyone! My guest today, Carla Titus, has nearly 20 years of experience as a financial professional and CFO that she brings to the discussion. While we chat about some of the basics of financial management in a practice, we spend most of our time talking about compensation and profit sharing. Carla is a dynamic individual with a ton of knowledge in this area, so you’re guaranteed to learn something useful during this episode. Here are a few topics that we discuss:

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

She is the owner/CEO of Wealth & Worth Within a fractional CFO firm who provides financial consulting and advisory services to group practice owners. Finance expert with over 17 years of combined corporate financial planning and analysis as well as businesses financial consulting experience. Our priorities for our clients at Wealth & Worth Within range from growing profits, increasing cash reserves, and paying the owner well, so they can build personal wealth.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

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How many times have you run into an ethical or legal dilemma and wondered how to handle it? Or found yourself in a tricky situation and realized that it could have been largely avoided if your consent form was a little more clear or comprehensive? I think we’ve all been there, including my guests today. Dr. Karen Pavlidis and Fran Schopick, JD, MSW founded the Working Alliance to provide mental health practitioners with a comprehensive, personal model of risk management services. Today, we’re talking about…

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

Karen Pavlidis, PhD, is a psychologist with over twenty-five years of experience, licensed to practice in Washington State. She is the founder of Child and Teen Solutions (CATS) in Seattle, a group practice that offers both assessment and evaluations for children and teens. Karen also serves as a Clinical Instructor at the University of Washington’s Department of Psychology.

Fran Schopick, JD, MSW, is an attorney in Washington State with a unique background in psychiatric research and social work. Fran devotes most of her time representing mental health care providers facing Licensing Board complaints. She is a speaker on ethics and risk management, focusing on strategies for providers to avoid or navigate through Licensing Board investigations.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

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Part of my job as the visionary for our practice is to dive deep into trends that could influence our practice, generate ideas for improvement, and keep my finger on the pulse of the industry. Today, I’m sharing some of the topics that I’m thinking about for 2025. Not all of these ideas will directly impact our practice of course, but I think it’s valuable to brainstorm and identify potential areas for growth and monitoring as we continue to level up our practices.

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

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My guest today, Keith Kurlander, has seen all facets of mental health practice and business ownership, from solo clinician to podcast host to influencer and large-scale business owner. He chats with me today about the journey through each of these stages. We get into the “how” but also the “why” behind some of his choices, giving you a glimpse into the decision-making process and execution of these ideas. If you’ve ever thought about expanding your reach beyond one-on-one clinical work, definitely check this one out!

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

Keith Kurlander, MA, LPC, is the Co-Founder of the Integrative Psychiatry Institute, specializing in integrative mental health and psychedelic therapy education. He also co-hosts the Higher Practice Podcast for Optimal Mental Health and co-founded the Integrative Psychiatry Centers, a clinic transforming mental healthcare with innovative treatments. With over 20 years of experience as a psychotherapist and coach, Keith’s mental health journey began after a near-suicide at 19 following a psilocybin experience. Now a successful entrepreneur, he’s dedicated to teaching methods that help eradicate mental illness and unlock potential.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

Ready to grow your testing services? Click below to schedule a complimentary 30-minute pre-consulting call!

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I talk to a lot of folks during my consulting meetings and coaching groups who are interested in offering an evaluation “menu” in their testing practices. Typically this takes the form of “brief” evaluations answering a specific referral question like, “Does this client have ADHD?” I don’t like this approach, and today I’m digging into research on consumer preferences to explain why. If you’ve ever considered different tiers or “add-ons” for your evals, this is the episode for you!

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

Ready to grow your testing services? Click below to schedule a complimentary 30-minute pre-consulting call!

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Yes, layout and design of your office is definitely a part of your marketing and branding! Today’s conversation with Carolyn Boldt from CrossFields Interior & Architecture was SUCH a blast. We definitely cover some of the basics of layout and decoration, but we also spend a lot of time doing a live consultation where Carolyn looks at photos of my current waiting room and personal office, then gives tips on how to improve the spaces. With such a visual component, I definitely recommend watching the YouTube video if you can! Even if you can’t, there’s plenty to take away from this discussion to help make your office as inviting as possible. Enjoy!

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

Carolyn is personally passionate about holistic health and wellness, and an outspoken advocate that the environment of your space impacts your success.

With over 40 years of experience in the commercial interior industry, she holds a BS in Interior Architectural Design from University of Texas at Austin, is NCIDQ Certified, a Registered Designer, a LEED AP, and Professional Member of IIDA/International Interior Design Association.

In 2004, she and her husband, Scott, co-founded CrossFields as a design-build firm in Atlanta. In 2011 they changed their focus to expand the impact of holistic health by elevating the public’s image of alternative medicine through virtually creating outstanding healing environments nationwide.

Carolyn loves to spend her time with her 8 wonderful grandchildren, involvement in church and community activities, traveling, and boating on the lake with her husband.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

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My guest today, Dr. Janice Lepore, had the opportunity to spend a year in Congress as an APA Congressional Fellow. She’s here to share her experience during that year, as well as the path that led to it. If you’ve ever dreamt of “doing more” as a psychologist, this episode is for you! These are just a few topics that Janice and I discuss:

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

Janice Lepore is a Maryland licensed psychologist who has provided assessment, therapy, and consultation services in schools, hospitals, clinics, and her own private practice for the past 20 years. Over the past decade, she has also been engaged in local and state-level policy and advocacy, addressing issues related to mental and behavioral health, education, disability access and inclusion, and health equity and access. In 2023 Janice was selected as an APA/AAAS (triple A S is how that’s usually said) Congressional Fellow and placed her practice on sabbatical to spend a year embedded with the Health Policy team at the US Senate Committee on Finance.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

Ready to grow your testing services? Click below to schedule a complimentary 30-minute pre-consulting call!

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Hey everyone! Given all the questions about EHR’s (electronic health records) in the Facebook Community and among my coaching clients, I wanted to take a few episodes to dive in to some of the major players in the EHR space. Each of these reviews will focus primarily on the testing-specific aspects of each EHR, though I’ll also do an overview of non-testing features that are important. 

For the FULL review experience, check out the accompanying video on the Testing Psychologist YouTube channel. Enjoy!

Owl Practice is the star EHR for today. It’s a relatively new EHR that’s getting a lot of great reviews. Here’s how my review broke down:

Pros:

Cons:

Takeaway: assuming that you can bill for add-on codes and multiple units easily, I would certainly consider Owl as an EHR. There are some nitpicky problems, but it’s a viable solution with a great price point.

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I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!

I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

Ready to grow your testing services? Click below to schedule a complimentary 30-minute pre-consulting call!

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Join me in today’s conversation with Diana Heldfond and Dr. A. Jordan Wright, the CEO and Chief Clinical Officer for Parallel Learning. Parallel offers an ecosystem of tech tools and providers to help increase access to essential services for school-aged kids. Today’s episode covers a broad range of topics: tele-assessment, technology and AI, access, and provider burnout. Specifically, we discuss:

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Featured Resources

I am honored to partner with two AMAZING companies to help improve your testing practice!

PAR is a long time supporter of the Testing Psychologist podcast, and I will continue to bring you featured items from their catalog! Listen to each episode for specific product recommendations and links. Learn more at www.parinc.com.

TherapyNotes is the leading EHR system for mental health practitioners. I’ve used TherapyNotes for over 10 years, and it just keeps getting better. Use this link and the promo code “testing” to get two free months and try it for yourself! www.therapynotes.com/testing

The Testing Psychologist podcast is approved for CEU’s!I’ve partnered with At Health to offer CE credits for podcast episodes! Visit this link to access current and past episodes available for CE credit. You can use code “TTP10” for a discount on ALL the course credits you purchase from At Health!

Diana Heldfond is the Founder and CEO of Parallel Learning, a technology-forward education company focused on supporting students with learning differences. Parallel provides resources and encouragement to help these students succeed in the classroom and beyond by building confidence in their strengths and creating strategies to overcome challenges. Heldfond’s goal is to simplify access to care for families, providers, and educators, ensuring that more students receive the support they deserve.

Dr. A. Jordan Wright is Chief Clinical Officer at Parallel, leading their clinical vision for accessible, evidence-based support services for students with learning differences. He’s also a Clinical Associate Professor at NYU, directing their combined Clinical/Counseling Psychology PhD program. An expert in psychological assessment, Dr. Wright is a prolific author and researcher, emphasizing LGBTQIA+ issues and social justice.

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I’m a licensed psychologist and Clinical Director at the Colorado Center for Assessment & Counseling, a private practice that I founded in 2009 and have grown to over 20 clinicians. I earned my undergraduate degree in Experimental Psychology from the University of South Carolina before getting my Master’s and PhD in Counseling Psychology from Colorado State University. These days, I specialize in psychological and neuropsychological evaluation with kids and adolescents.

As the host of the Testing Psychologist Podcast, I provide private practice consulting for psychologists and other mental health professionals who want to start or grow psychological testing services in their practices. I live in Fort Collins, Colorado with my wife (also a therapist) and two young kids.

Ready to grow your testing services? Click below to schedule a complimentary 30-minute pre-consulting call!

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