The Trial

In this episode Caroline and Jack bring the full police interviews with Constance Marten which took place after the body of Victoria had been found. Constance Marten told detectives the couple were portrayed as villains when they were on the run, and she said the media storm made her too afraid to hand herself in. After Victoria died she said she wanted to bury her but the couple hadn’t eaten for weeks, so were too weak to dig a grave. The episode will also bring more information about why the couple’s other four children were taken into care.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon heard about the moment police finally found the body of Baby Victoria in a shed in March 2023, nearly two months after the couple allegedly went on the run with her. The episode will also feature details of their police interviews, both before and after the discovery of the baby's body. The jury saw footage of a tearful Constance Marten tell police about her baby's death.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon was dramatically halted last week after an explosion under the court. The episode will also feature evidence about the final days the couple spent on the run, when they appeared to scavenge in bins for food, as well as the eyewitness account of the man who set in motion their arrest after growing suspicious of the couple outside a corner shop in Brighton. The jury also heard from the police officers who were first on the scene to arrest the couple - one of whom saw something strange stuffed inside the jacket of Constance Marten. Both defendants deny the charges against them.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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In this special extended episode Caroline and Liz speak to Esther Ghey, the mother of Brianna. In her first in depth audio interview, Esther tells them about the moment she learned her daughter had been murdered, how she has coped with the past 12 months and how she plans to mark the anniversary of Brianna’s death on Sunday.

She also speaks passionately about her determination to make positive change for children, by campaigning for new legislation around mobile phones and social media, and improving mental resilience with mindfulness teachers in schools.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic bodycam footage of the moment Constance Marten and Mark Gordon are finally arrested after weeks on the run. In the footage both are asked repeatedly where the baby is, but neither give an answer. 

The episode outlines the evidence from a woman who says she was awoken on two consecutive nights in her house on the edge of the South Downs by the sound of a baby crying. A few days later, she said that she saw a couple resembling Mark Gordon and Constance Marten on a coastal path near her home, as well as a blue tent nearby.

This episode also features evidence from a man whose wife gave evidence last week about an alleged sighting of Constance Marten carrying a dead child. He told the court that he and his wife returned to the park where she made the sighting so that they could carry out their own detective work. The jury were also shown CCTV of the moment Constance Marten bought some petrol from a Texaco garage on January 12 2023 - which she later told police that she had intended to use to cremate the remains of Baby Victoria. Both defendants deny the charges against them.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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In this episode Caroline and Liz talk to Dr Carol Stott, an expert in autism, to try and answer some of your questions about the role the condition played in the trial. They bring you a longer interview with criminologist Prof David Wilson, who offers his insight into what drove Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe to kill Brianna.

And they also bring you news of a new campaign launched by Brianna’s mother, Esther Ghey, which aims to help parents control what their children are looking at online via their smartphones.

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In this episode Caroline and Liz outline all the details from a dramatic day in court as Brianna’s killers were sentenced and their names revealed for the first time.

They also discuss how sadism and Brianna’s transgender status partly motivated them Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe to kill.

And that just a few weeks ago Jenkinson finally admitted stabbing Brianna during the brutal attack.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you evidence from two sisters who said they made separate sightings of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon while they were allegedly on the run in Sussex.

Pauline Mason told jurors she walked past Marten carrying an infant in a sling.The baby, she said, was very pale - and she believed it was dead. This episode will also bring you details of the moment the newborn baby, Victoria, was first glimpsed on CCTV, as well as an unexpected discovery made by police close to where the couple fled their burning car in Bolton.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring you the evidence of a dog walker who told the court he knew "something wasn’t right" when he saw Constance Marten and Mark Gordon sitting on a street in Harwich in the freezing cold. Dale Gosling said he could hear a baby crying and he "couldn’t just walk away”. This episode will also bring you the words of a driver who tried to help them when their car burst into flames on a motorway. He said he now fears baby Victoria might still be alive if he'd stayed with them. 

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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Constance Marten & Mark Gordon went on the run in January 2023, along with their daughter Victoria, born just a few days before.

A huge manhunt resulted in them being found in Brighton, and two days after that, Victoria's body was found in a plastic bag on an allotment.

The pair have been charged with killing her - which they both deny.

In the second episode, we will give you the second half of the opening statement from prosecutor, Tom Little KC, as well as an address made to the court by John Femi-Ola KC, who is defending Mark Gordon.

Warning: This podcast references court proceedings which detail the death and alleged abuse of a child in detail.

Follow the evidence as the jury hears it, in twice-weekly reports from broadcaster and journalist Caroline Cheetham, along with news reporter Jack Hardy.

They’ll take you into London's Old Bailey, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.

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