In this episode Liz and Caroline explain the evidence the jury have heard in relation to a premature baby girl, Baby J, who Lucy Letby is accused of attempting to murder by smothering in November 2015.

Baby J was born 8 weeks early and underwent surgery for a perforated bowel in the first few days after her birth. Jurors heard she was recovering well and her mother and father were preparing to take her home. But, the prosecution say, that all changed during a night shift when Lucy Letby allegedly tried to smother Baby J, causing her to suffer a seizure. 

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In this episode, Liz and Caroline explain the evidence the jury have heard in relation to a very premature baby girl, Baby I, who Lucy Letby allegedly attacked three times, before murdering her on the fourth attempt.

Jurors heard from a doctor who said she saw Lucy Letby crying on the neo-natal unit and saying: ‘It’s always me when it happens, my babies…” The court was also shown a sympathy card Lucy Letby wrote to the parents of Baby I after she died. Lucy Letby denies all the allegations.

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This week, Liz and Caroline finish explaining the evidence the jury heard in relation to Baby H, a premature baby girl who Lucy Letby is accused of trying to murder twice on consecutive night shifts. Baby H was a poorly baby who was on and off a ventilator while at the Countess of Chester Hospital. But within two days at Arrowe Park Hospital, she dramatically improved. Prosecutors say Lucy Letby was sabotaging her care while she was at the Countess. Lucy Letby denies these allegations.

Also in this episode: Professor David Wilson, a well known criminologist who is sometimes called the real life Cracker, tells us how punching an opponent in the nose during a rugby game in university led to his interest in crime and punishment. He also opens up about the saddest miscarriage of justice he encountered - the case of Stefan Kiszko who was wrongfully imprisoned for 16 years before being exonerated.

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In this episode, Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby H, a baby girl, who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill twice in 24 hours. In the early hours of September 26, 2015, Baby H collapsed and didn’t have a heartbeat for twenty-two minutes while staff battled to save her life. Jurors were told the doctors were so worried that they urged her parents to have her baptised in case she didn’t make it. 

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This week, Liz and Caroline had hoped to bring you details of evidence heard by the jury during their first week back. But, unexpectedly the case was delayed and unable to go ahead because of health and family issues relating to two members of the jury.

We’re hoping they will be back to normal next week. In the meantime, we have two excellent interviews this week: Part 2 of the interview with media law expert Mark Hanna, and another with the legendary boss of news agency Cavendish Press, Jon Harris, AKA Mr Justice Harris.

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The Trial of Lucy Letby is back after the Christmas break with an interview with Mark Hanna, one of the editors of McNae’s Essential Law for Journalists - the book considered to be the ‘bible’ of media law for reporters. Liz and Caroline chat to Mark about the legal tightrope they are treading to bring listeners the podcast – one of the first to cover an ongoing legal case – each week.

Next week, Liz and Caroline will be back with details on what the jury are expected to hear over the coming days about the next baby in the case, Baby H, as the trial resumes for the new year.

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In this episode, Caroline and Liz explain how Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill Baby G, the most premature baby in the case, on two more occasions.

We hear how she is said to have attacked the tiny infant on a day shift, within the space of five hours, on her original due date, leaving her with irreversible brain damage.

We also hear part two of the chat with former chief crown prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, where he describes the importance of trials being open to the public and how trust in the justice system would benefit from live streaming trials.

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In this episode, Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby G, the most premature baby in this case, who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill three times in a fortnight.

We also chat to former chief crown prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, about the difficulties faced by lawyers preparing and running such a long and complicated trial, and why advances in technology have revolutionised courtrooms.

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In this episode Caroline and Liz explain what the prosecution experts say happened to Baby F, a premature twin boy who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to poison with insulin.

We hear how two bags of feed were allegedly contaminated by Lucy Letby and how all of the nurses on duty during the night shift were called to court - and each denied putting insulin into baby F’s feed.

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In this episode Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby F, a premature twin boy who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill with insulin. We hear how his blood sugar suddenly crashed soon after the nurse allegedly poisoned his intravenous feed and how, after she finished her shift, she went salsa dancing with a colleague. We also chat to freelance broadcaster, Matt O’Donoghue, about the skill of condensing a day’s worth of evidence into just a few minutes for television or radio.

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