This week we bring you another magical swapcast with repeat offender, Mike Tully, host of The Tully Show on Sirius XM. We discuss the origin of consciousness, how scary it is when babies make eye contact, the fear of death, and how important it is to "shut off."

For all things Tully:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tully-show/id1203497633?mt=2

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