This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

The latest social media usage results by Pew are out and...surprise, surprise...almost half of all teenagers are on social media "literally all the time." It seems that short-form videos are ruling the day on nearly all platforms.

Mega-publisher Axel Springer does a deal with ChatGPT to include news. What does this mean for media companies and the future of search?

And everything you know about podcasts might actually be wrong.

Rants and raves include permissions on Dropbox and Magna/OpenAP doing a deal.

This week's links:

Axel Springer Deals with OpenAI

Pew Research on Teen Social Media Usage

Everything You Know about Podcasts Is Wrong

Sounds Profitable Podcast Research

Spotify and Audiobook Streaming

Dropbox and Third-Party AI

How Anxiety Became Content

Magna and OpenAP Data Deal

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Google makes their big AI announcement regarding Google Gemini. Can the new AI suite save Google's stalling search business?

Is purpose-driven content dead after failures by Bud Light and Target? Joe is skeptical but Robert thinks there is a big opportunity.

Spotify announces some big layoffs and a strategic change, while the NCAA might be hiring students in the very near future.

Rants and raves include TikTok shopping and a new model for digital ad revenue.

This week's links:

Google's Gemini Announced

Brand Backlash

Spotify's Strategic Changes

NCAA and NIL

Digital Ad Revenue's Up

This week's sponsors:

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Elon Musk's remarks at the recent Dealbook conference show (inconclusive) evidence that he is actually trying to lower X's valuation to such a point to where he can buy the company back (from debtors) at pennies on the dollar.

Synthetic (AI) content is on the rise. Google is having major problems with it, and some (experts) say that over 90 percent of all content will be AI generated by 2026.

And finally, should creators (and marketers) start thinking about protecting their digital likeness? The boys say yes.

Rants and raves include an interesting move by Weibo and Google paying off publishers.

This week's links:

Joe's Studio Setup Details Here

Elon says "Go F' Yourself"

The Rapid Rise of Synthetic Content

How Creators Own Their Digital Likeness

Weibo and Anonymous Creators

Google's Publisher Group Shutting Down

This week's sponsors:

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Note: This was recorded before Sam Altman was reinstated at OpenAI. Go figure!

Joe and Robert go indepth on the soap opera that is OpenAI, and the ramifications on marketers and content creators.

X sees another exodus of advertisers. Is this the end of the road for the former blue bird?

And TikTok is now used at a key news source for 30 percent of young adults. Should we be scared?

Rants and raves include ideas to save local journalism and Buzzfeed's new business model.

This week's links:

Paul Roetzer's AI Podcast about the History of OpenAI

Sam Altman Returns to OpenAI (added link)

Sam Altman Joins Microsoft

Why OpenAI Blew Up

X Responds to Advertisers Jumping Ship

Media Matters Grills Elon and X

Crisis in Local News

BuzzFeed Shifts Business Model

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The new actors' agreement and Meta's newly released guide for political advertisements tell us one big thing - AI content will begin to flourish. Get ready for massive process and job changes in the very near future directly because of these two announcements.

In other news, YouTube has ad blockers going crazy with their new AI-sniffer tools. Have we seen the end of ad blockers?

In rants and raves, Joe raves about SNAP's CEO and rants about the new ESPN Bet. Robert raves about Mark Ritson's US marketer call-to-arms.

This week's links:

The New Actors' Agreement

OpenAI Announces New Agents Program

Meta to Require AI Disclosures

YouTube and Ad Blockers

A Challenge to US Marketers

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A very special episode where Joe and Robert review their content and marketing predictions from the previous year.

Do they make the grade? You need to judge for yourself.

• TikTok will be banned.
• Netflix will merge with another streaming platform.
• LinkedIn will rise to the top.
• First party data will rule.
• AI dominates.
• Google uses AI detector.
• Content acquisitions on the rise.
• Recession will be localized to tech only.
• Cryptopunks and Bored Apes double.
• Apple will introduce a headset.

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A special 400th episode of This Old Marketing. And yes, the boys are getting up there!

Joe and Robert discuss AI announcements by the US President and Microsoft (launching of Copilot), as well as Google integrating AI into search. For AI to work well, it needs to be working from a correct set of information. Is that the case or should we be worried?

Elon holds a company meeting and talks about X doing almost everything. It's too bad that Apple and Google have a head start in this area.

And Disney buys out the rest of Hulu. Good thing? Regardless, Disney is having operational challenges.

Rants and raves include Joe's new website, IP addresses and Omnicom buying Flywheel.

This week's links:

Biden Signs AI Order

Microsoft Launches Copilot

Elon's Company Meeting about the Everything App

Disney to Buy Rest of Hulu

What the Heck is Disney's Problem?

Joe Pulizzi's Website

IP Addresses Aren't the Answer

Omnicom Buys Flywheel

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Breaking news as X year-over-year numbers plummet. Can the Elon-run social media site recover?

Meta, and more specifically Instagram, is being sued by 33 states. The charge? That the company repeatedly misled the public about the dangers of being on their platform.

Joe and Robert discuss the sad truth: Meta puts profits (and addiction) ahead of the future of America. Done and done.

And finally, new research suggests that trust in media is at an all-time low (and getting worse by the minute). But there is an opportunity.

Rants and raves include the B2B creator, TikTok launches an event, and new DC funding for local news.

This week's links:

X Usage Plummets

Meta Instagram Being Sued

Media Confidence in the US at a Low

DC Lawmakers Introduce Local News Bill

Marketing Needs More Marketing

The B2B Creator Opportunity

TikTok Events

OEF Night at the Races

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This week the all-knowing Elon announced their "everyone gets charged a dollar" plan. Musk made this sound like it was a "bots" move. Joe and Robert know it's something completely different.

Tucker Carlson makes his well-telegraphed move to media company (we called this). What can creators and marketers learn from the move?

And marketers are as tense as ever. Is this temporary or just stating the obvious?

Rants and raves include a bit of Shakespeare, following by Google and Taylor Swift.

This week's links:

X Charges One Dollar

Tucker Carlson Media Company

Marketers Going Mental

Google's New Gating Move

OEF Night at the Races

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The boys ramp up the show talking about Kendall Jenner's new AI chatbot Billie, brought to you by Meta. Scary? Yes. More to come? Absolutely.

Social media sites have been making changes for years that are hurting traffic to media and brand sites. The latest data will bring chills to your web analytics manager.

At the same time, X is making some ridiculous moves, including rolling out a new "advertising" program, discouraging links in posts, and barring Linda Yaccarino from any more speaking events.

And finally, is Ryan Reynolds responsible for the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce hookup? Find out the truth today.

Rants and raves include more on the writers' and actor's strike and a fresh take from Joe on the movie "Dumb Money".

This week's sponsors:

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This week's links:

The Kendall Jenner Chatbot

Social Media Referrals Going to the Dumpster

X Rolls Out New Ad Format

Musk Hates Outside Links

X CEO Out at Conferences

Ryan Reynolds and Taylor Swift

Writers' and Actors' Strike Update

Dumb Money Soundtrack

Eddie Bauer Changes Logo

Robert Rose Book Deal

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