This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

Joe and Robert do a deep dive into their CEX presentations...Joe's on the new business model for content creators and Robert's on the marketing MBA.

In the news, Instagram launches a new program that will highlight new content creators. They make it sound amazing. The problem is that this will hurt full-time content creators and content marketers.

Hits this week include Adidas and Phish (at the Sphere). Rants and raves include the trouble with books and third-party cookies.

This week's links:

Instagram and Twitch Roll Out New Algos

Amazon's Killer Quarterly Numbers

Adidas to Overinvest in Marketing

Phish at the Sphere

No One Buys Books

Yes, People Still Buy Books

Google's Cookie Delay

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In a whirlwind week on The Hill, a TikTok ultimatum (sell or be banned) passed the House, the Senate and was quickly signed by the President. What happens now?

META's quarterly results were outstanding...and then the stock dropped 20 percent. What happened?

Taylor Swift does her own deal with TikTok, making the executive team at UMG furious. Is this something for creators and marketers to follow?

Hits and misses include Cedar Point and Google.

Rants and raves include a big rant against Telsa marketing and an important reminder social media from Jay Clouse.

This week's links:

Biden Signs Bill Against TikTok

TikTok's Creator Economy Stares Into the Abyss

META Announces Earnings...Stock Sinks

Taylor Swift Goes Direct with TikTok

Google Fires Protesters

Cedar Point's Content Creators

Tesla's No Marketing Move

Jay Clouse on Social Media

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John Deere's search for a new social media creator leads to an important conversation - are corporate social media handles dead?

Faced with possibly paying for the news, Google starts removing links to California news sites for some users. And the winner for the dumb move of the year goes to...

The VC market for creator startups is up the the first time in multiple quarters, while a group of TikTok influencers send a nasty gram to Joe Biden.

Hits and misses include Dove and AI and Caitlin Clark on SNL.

Rants and raves include gaming Spotify and the Chief Marketing Officer tenure.

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This week's links:

Google Won't Pay for News

John Deere Hunts for Chief Tractor Officer

Creator Startups and VCs

TikTok Influencers Send Letter to Joe Biden

Dove and AI

SNL and Caitlin Clark

CMO Tenures

Spotify and SEO

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Could marketers finally be waking up to the advantages of direct print? The relaunch of some high-profile magazines, and the launch of Robinhood's new print magazine leads our discussion.

In other news, Alphabet is reportedly looking at acquiring Hubspot and a new privacy bill is being drafted in Congress.

And...is synthetic AI training data setting us up for disaster?

Hits and misses include Jack Conte and Suno.ai. Rants and raves include creators Kelsey Russell and Andrew Huberman.

And Joe's new book is out...get a copy here: https://www.joepulizzi.com/books/content-entrepreneur/

This week's links:

Women's NCAA Ratings Bonanza

Google/Hubspot Deal

New Privacy Bill

Nylon Re-launches in Print

Robinhood Creates Media Arm

Tech Giants and AI Training Data

Jack Conte's SXSW Presentation - The Death of the Follower

Kelsey Russell and Print Newspapers

Crisis Communications and Alex Huberman

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Robert and Joe run through the business books that have made the most impact on their lives and careers. They include:

• Marketing Management – Philip Kotler
• Discovery Driven Growth – Rita Gunther McGrath
• Different – Youngme Moon
• How Will You Measure Your Life – Clayton Christensen
• Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance – Robert Pirsig
• Think & Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
• Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey
• Stranger in a Strange Land - Robert Heinlein
• IMC: Integrated Marketing Communication - Don Schultz
• David & Goliath - Malcolm Gladwell

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News this week as Florida governor Ron DeSantis signs a law restricting social media access for children. Is this the first step to full-on social media verification or just another fruitless attempt to tell people how to parent?

Trump's Truth Social goes public and hits meme stock territory. How long with the party last?

Spotify adds video learning to its platform. Is YouTube in Spotify's sights?

And print is back baby!

Hits and misses include a Ryan's World movie and Comscore. Rants and raves include rants against Accenture and Meta's Threads.

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This week's links:

Florida Age-Gating Law

Trump's Truth Social Meme Stock

Truth Social's Revenue Problem

Spotify Adds Video Learning

Print On the Move

Pew Research on Print

Comscore Deal

Ryan's World Movie

Accenture and Adobe AI Release

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In this special episode #420, Joe and Robert dissect the upcoming Apple/Google deal for AI and the iPhone. Is this a sign of weakness for Apple or are they just buying time?

OpenAI's chatbot store is filling up with spam. Are you surprised?

And a group of publishing experts launch Authors Equity to give more rights back to authors. Uh, we don't think so.

Hits and misses include Liquid Death and Coca-Cola.

Rants and raves includes a full overview of the TikTok banning bill and why it's harder to become a creator today.

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This week's links:

Don Lemon Pivot Interview

Apple and Google to Partner on AI

OpenAI Spam

New Publishing Model Isn't Great

It's Harder to Become a Creator Today

No TikTok Bill

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We are in post-social media and, now, a post-search environment. The next 12 months are critical to start getting your content assets in order for the AI Content wave.

The House passes a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban. Uh, we told you so. But does it really matter?

Google's Gemini AI refuses to answer political questions (among other things). This leads to a conversation on how AI Truth is coordinated and what we can do about it.

MrBeast tells everyone to slow down a bit...that less content is more. Thank you sir!

And OpenAI starts doing publisher deals. Hello Google circa 2002.

Hits and misses include Kate Middleton and Da'Vine Joy Randolph.

Rants and raves include Kara Swisher's new book (rant) and the quote by Sam Altman heard round the world.

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This week's links:

TikTok House Ban

Google Gemini Is Mum on Elections

MrBeast Slows Down

OpenAI Publisher Deals

Sam Altman and 95 Percent Quote

Da'Vine's Oscar Speech

This week's sponsors:

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Content Connect 2024 - Join speakers from JPMC, Square, and Marriott, as well as your fellow content, digital and analytics leaders, for a day of keynote sessions, interactive workshops and unparalleled networking opportunities. If you're interested in attending this free event, please visit knotch.com/contentconnect.

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In this special #ThisOldMarketing episode, Joe and Robert review their presentations from Social Media Marketing World 2024. Robert shares his insights, including:

• The Value of Relationships
• The Product Content Mindset
• The Point of View Architecture
• The Trust Exercise - Audit Your Experiences

Joe runs through his secrets for content marketing success, including:

• Building the Base
• The Content Tilt
• Acquiring Content Assets
• Creators over Content
• Pillar Content Projects
• The NEW Print Opportunity
• Email, Email, Email
• The Content Revenue Model

For the full content marketing revenue model, check out our book, Killing Marketing.

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Another media company bites the dust. This time it's the once-darling Vice Media.

Is the news media business model broken or is there something else at work here?

A big supreme court case involving social media moderation is being reviewed by SCOTUS. Could it happen? We'll see this summer.

Is Google on death row? It's clear the product is getting worse. Will ChatGPT come to the rescue?

And Tyler Perry shelves his studio project because of Sora.

Hits and misses include Bitcoin and Air Canada.

Rants and raves involve the fractional CMO and a Florida law banning social media usage for youngsters.

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This week's links:

Supreme Court Social Media Case

Vice Media Shutting Down

Is Google Search Dying?

Tyler Perry Shelves Studio

Air Canada Is Stupid

The Fractional CMO

Florida Lawmakers Pass Social Law

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