What’s the difference between training and just working out? In this episode of The Judd Lienhard Podcast, elite performance coach Tim Riley (@timrileytraining) breaks down the mechanics of longevity-focused athletic training, calling out fitness dogma, movement cults, and what really matters if you want to stay powerful, functional, and pain-free over the long haul.

Whether you're a pro athlete or recreational lifter, Tim delivers a masterclass in how to train for speed, power, and durability — not just aesthetics.

👉 Learn how to train smart, recover harder, and stop chasing “optimal” in favor of what actually works.

⏱️ Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Everyone can train like an athlete
00:00:20 - The difference between training vs. working out
00:03:34 - Tim’s #1 training tenet: "I don’t want to be right, I want to get it right"
00:06:00 - Mustache talk, social media presence, and staying authentic
00:08:16 - GOTA, functional patterns & movement cults
00:09:33 - Training disagreements with partners and dealing with creepy DMs
00:12:31 - Judging by appearance vs. training credibility
00:13:16 - State troopers and programming dogma
00:16:05 - Certainty in training and the limits of “science-based”
00:17:22 - Suboptimal programs that still deliver results
00:18:05 - Why intensity and consistency is more important than programming
00:20:45 - Bridging the gap between gen pop and elite athletes
00:23:33 - Gamifying performance and training as the sport
00:24:16 - Risk of acute injuries vs. chronic disease from inactivity
00:26:25 - Movement quality over muscle size
00:27:36 - 22mph sprint at age 35 & variability in human performance
00:30:11 - Getting hurt from training too hard vs. not training at all
00:33:25 - Sprinting safety & building up capacity
00:38:39 - Training chaos & the myth of “optimal” movement
00:41:08 - Sherpa coaching model and athlete collaboration
00:42:32 - Getting athlete buy-in for movement change
00:44:26 - Letting athletes choose exercises
00:45:04 - Exercise dogma: “Everyone must clean” vs. reality
00:47:46 - Jamar Chase power cleans 315 after 6 weeks off
00:50:00 - What defines true athleticism
00:51:13 - NFL physiques vs. performance efficiency
00:52:12 - Herschel Walker and the myth of minimalist training
00:52:59 - Tim’s basic training split: 2 lower, 2 upper
00:54:13 - Why speed comes first, and contrast pairing tips
00:55:09 - Importance of rest in power and sprint sessions
00:57:51 - 20x40s ≠ speed work: the biggest youth coaching mistake
00:59:18 - Football + distraction tricks to preserve rest quality
01:00:28 - Squat variations and trap bar replacements
01:01:43 - Why you need to train biarticulate muscles directly
01:02:37 - Upper body: heavy bench, athlete-guided pressing
01:03:51 - Why ballistic training is underrated
01:04:56 - The resurgence of machines and hypertrophy for athletes
01:07:34 - Why hypertrophy = health, metabolism, and training leverage
01:08:20 - Tim’s podcast & how to connect

📢 Follow Tim Riley:
Instagram: @timrileytraini

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