Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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This week on the show, Michelle Goldberg joins Michelle  and Ross to debate the gambles or gains Kamala Harris has made by picking  Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota as her running mate. They also discuss the ways the Trump-Vance ticket could recalibrate to regain their lead. Plus, Goldberg is sunny on a new show you probably haven’t heard of.

(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Recommended in this episode:

  • Don’t Listen to the Right. The Kamalanomenon Is Real. by Michelle Goldberg
  • The Focus Group Podcast episode “Kamala Needs a DEI Pick (Straight White Dude)” with Sarah Longwell
  • Sunny from Apple TV+

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