[25:04] John Lau, DTM, of Kuching, Sarawak, Malaysia, was elected Toastmasters’ 2012-2013 International President at the 2012 International Convention in Orlando, Florida. John is the chief executive and owner of the Acme Group of Companies, a management consultancy. He is also a Sarawak State Chairman of the People’s Progressive Party of Malaysia, a component party of the Malaysian federal government. In this special in-studio interview, John shares how Toastmasters has helped him g. . . See the complete description at http://www.dowellwebtools.com/tools/bg/Bo/tmpodcast