What would you risk to help a family member? In the case of one of the most powerful people on the planet, the answer might be reputation, credibility and legacy. On the table today is US President Joe Biden's decision to pardon his son — the understandable act of a devoted dad or a morally dodgy decision?

Also, why is 'sorted smugness' a thing now? Have a word please because a life that's completely in order is not something with which all of us are on board. 

And, Sabrina Carpenter’s live show includes X-rated lyrics and simulated sex positions. But with a very young fanbase to consider, is her content just too much for little eyes and ears? We do a vibe check.

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