Transactional Analysis Podcast

In this special episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John Fleming and Matt Taylor are joined by Aya Konoike, an organisational development and DEI consultant based in Kamakura, Japan, and a Shugendo practitioner of over thirteen years - to introduce Contemplative TA: a somatic, experiential integration of Shugendo, Zen and transactional analysis.

Built from Aya’s own practice, Contemplative TA sets out to reconnect what modern, individualist life tends to split apart, mind from body, self from other, people from the natural world. It’s learned somatically rather than cognitively, through movement and ritual as much as reflection, and grounded in a distinctly Japanese understanding of presence, nature and connection.

It’s a warm, wide-ranging and often moving conversation about what transactional analysis still offers a fast, commodifying world.

You’ll hear them explore:

• Aya's own journey into discovering TA
• An exploration of Contemplative TA: a somatic, experiential integration of Shugendo, Zen and TA, built around the integrating Adult and "negative capability"
• Presence as connection to your resources, and the Japanese idea of "ba"
• Shugendo, and Aya's own training and experience
• Why "contemplative" needn't mean "still," and what that opens up
• How Aya's view of nature parts ways with eco-TA: not using nature to grow ourselves, but remembering we already belong to it
• "Worldly" versus "global" (after Henry Mintzberg)
• TA as a "catalyst" between a capitalist world and ancient wisdom

Japanese references mentioned in the episode

- Shugendo: 修験道

- Dewa Sanzan: 出羽三山

- Ba: 場

- Uketamo: うけたもう

- Shinto: 神道

Literature mentioned

Barrow & Marshall (2023), Transactional Analysis Journal 53(1)

Guest Information

Aya Konoike (PTSTA-O)

Aya Konoike is an organisational development and DEI consultant based in Kamakura, Japan, working with both Japanese and international companies on diversity, equity and inclusion, workplace transformation and organisational culture change. Alongside this she facilitates management training and leadership development programmes, and offers one-to-one counselling. She is also a Sendatsu (senior guide) in Shugendo, supporting practitioners who travel from abroad to undertake training.

A practitioner of Zen for around twenty years and of Shugendo for over thirteen, she has drawn these traditions together with TA to create Contemplative TA -a somatic, experiential approach built around presence, connection to the natural world, and the cultivation of the integrating Adult.

Email: [email protected]

Website: https://six-eight.jp/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayak-sixeight/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ritzcats/

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This podcast is brought to you in partnership with the United Kingdom Association for Transactional Analysis. We’re proud to have the UK Association for Transactional Analysis (UKATA) as our Patronage Partner. UKATA is a vibrant professional body committed to supporting the growth and ethical practice of Transactional Analysis in the UK and beyond. They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more: www.uka4ta.co.uk

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John Fleming and Matt Taylor are joined by Dr. Valerie Batts, Ph.D., Licensed Clinical Psychologist, Founding Director, Interim Board Chair, VISIONS and a Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst (TSTA-P) who has spent over fifty years applying TA as a lens on power, culture, and social change.

Valerie traces her path into TA from a young student activist in 1973, where she helped incarcerated young men learn “I’m OK, You’re OK,” ego states and games as a way of interrupting the negative messages they carried about themselves and about the system.

That experience set the course for a rich career spent applying a cultural lens and a power analysis to the work of clinicians, clients, educators, and organisations.

In this episode, Valerie draws on these experiences which make for a rich, powerful exploration of power, oppression and social justice.

You’ll hear them explore:

• How Valerie first encountered TA in 1973, teaching “I’m OK, You’re OK” to incarcerated young men and what it revealed about power and equity
• Valerie’s thoughts around TA through a political and social activism lens
• The VISIONS model and its four interlocking levels: personal, interpersonal, institutional (systemic), and cultural
• “Modern oppression” read through TA: child-Adult contamination, early decisions and the dance of privilege and lack of privilege
• Why the discounting of TA may mirror a wider discounting of mental health.
• How pathologising a person’s script can itself be a form of oppression 
• Righteous anger as an alternative to violence and culture as the water a fish cannot see
• What TA still offers in challenging, polarised times and how to keep the work alive and relevant 

Guest Information

Dr. Valerie Batts (TSTA-P) is the founding Director and a senior consultant at VISIONS-Inc. (Vigorous Interventions in Ongoing Natural Settings), the organisation she co-founded in 1984. In that role she provides coaching and supervision to leaders across companies, local government, and faith-based institutions. She also maintains a small private psychotherapy practice focused on supporting clients who have historically not had access to effective, culturally responsive mental health care, and she chairs the board of an emerging community-based gun-violence interruption programme in the rural North Carolina community where she lives - work that builds on a career-long commitment to criminal justice reform.

A Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst, Valerie first encountered TA in 1973 as an undergraduate at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, mentored by her first TA trainer, Josephine Bowens Lewis. Her work focuses on helping others recognise, understand, appreciate, and use similarities and differences at four interlocking levels — the personal, interpersonal, systemic (institutional), and cultural - and her particular area of expertise is applying a cultural lens and a power analysis to TA practice.

Link to Website: https://www.visions-inc.org

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This podcast is brought to you in partnership with the United Kingdom Association for Transactional Analysis. We’re proud to have the UK Association for Transactional Analysis (UKATA) as our Patronage Partner. UKATA is a vibrant professional body committed to supporting the growth and ethical practice of Transactional Analysis in the UK and beyond. They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more: www.uka4ta.co.uk

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John Fleming and Matt Taylor speak with Graeme Summers and Keith Tudor, the co-developers of Co-Creative Transactional Analysis (TA) and recipients of the 2020 Eric Berne Memorial Award for this contribution to TA. 

In this conversation, they trace the origins of Co-Creative TA - from shared questions in training, to years of tussling over theory, to a framework that has shaped how practitioners across psychotherapy, education, coaching, and organisational work understand the heart of TA.

You'll hear them explore:

• What Co-Creative TA is and what it is deliberately not
• The three principles: we-ness, shared responsibility, and present-centred development
• How social constructivism and field theory informed their re-reading of Berne
• Why health psychology (psychosanology) matters as much as pathology in TA practice
• The difference between transactional analysis and transactional design
• The integrating adult and why Graeme now wants to talk about the ‘disintegrating Adult’ too
• Why Co-Creative TA is a meta-perspective rather than a school, and what that means for trainees and practitioners

Disclaimer: In this episode, Graeme and Keith are expressing their personal opinions and is not speaking on behalf of any company or organisation.

Guest Information

Keith Tudor

Keith Tudor TSTA(Psychotherapy, CTA(Psychotherapy) is Professor of Psychotherapy  at Auckland University of Technology in Aotearoa New Zealand, where he is also co-Lead of Moana Nui Psychological Therapies Research Group. A Certified and Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst in psychotherapy, Keith has worked in and around TA for over 40 years, with more than 100 publications on TA to his name. He maintains a thriving private practice and works across the TA and person-centred worlds as a therapist, supervisor, trainer, and educator.

Graeme Summers

Graeme Summers is an executive coach who has worked at London Business School for over 21 years, partnering with senior leaders at the intersection of psychology and leadership effectiveness. A co-developer of Co-Creative Transactional Analysis, Graeme is a certified Transactional Analyst (Psychotherapy) who, prior to his coaching career, worked as a TA psychotherapist and served as Director of Training at the Counselling and Psychotherapy Training Institute in Edinburgh.

Link to Website: https://www.co-creativity.com

LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/graemesummers/

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts James Longwell and Parul Arora speak with Lorena Adami (CTA-C), a Transactional Analyst in the counselling field based in Italy, about her integration of cinema, storytelling, and TA.

Lorena shares how her background in cinema and media led her to develop what she calls “CineCounselling”, sparked in part by noticing the shared language of script in both film and TA. 

Together, they explore how metaphor, scenes, characters, and shared cultural reference points can support clients and groups to find words, create distance when needed, and expand perception in the counselling context.

You’ll hear them explore:

• How Lorena connects movie script and life script 
• The concept of what Lorena calls “CineCounselling”
• Why cinema can offer a symbolic language when a client can’t yet find words
• Using film to create the right distance to speak about self through story
• A group example using a movie to explore the free child, creativity, and expression with students
• Lorena’s view of TA counselling as empowerment for the client
• How movie scenes can make TA concepts more accessible

Guest Information

Lorena Adami (CTA-C) is a Transactional Analyst in the counselling field, based in Italy. She works in private practice and also supports people and groups across educational, organisational, and non-profit contexts through experiential learning, training, and consultancy.

Her approach integrates Film Studies, Transactional Analysis, and Spirituality & Management, using narrative and cinematic language to foster reflection, communication, and relational learning. She is developing CineCounseling, a flexible and co-creative model that uses film and storytelling to explore emotions, relationships, and new perspectives within groups and systems.

Website: https://msha.ke/lorenaadami#about
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorena-adami-counselling/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_cinecounselor/

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John Fleming and Joshua Okunlola speak with Rosemary Napper, an Organisational Training & Supervising Transactional Analyst (TSTA-O) also qualified in the Counselling and Education fields, whose work has shaped how many practitioners understand TA in workplaces, systems, and organisational life.

This rich conversation explores what TA really offers organisational practitioners beyond ego states, games, and scripts  and why the system itself must be understood as the client, not the individual.

Drawing on decades of practice, training, and deep study of Berne’s organisational writings, Rosemary opens up a perspective on TA that is systemic, cultural, and profoundly relevant

You’ll hear them explore:

• Why conflict in organisations is almost never individual issues
• How structures + system dynamics co-create the character (culture) of a system
• What Berne actually wrote about organisations
• How culture becomes introjected into people’s Parent and Child ego states
• How organisational games form, evolve, and repeat over decades
• The ethical pitfalls of individualising systemic problems
• The difference between coaching, counselling, psychotherapy, and organisational TA and why it matters
• What it really takes to create culture change within organisations
  
  

Guest Information

Rosemary Napper is a Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst (Organisational), also qualified in the Counselling and Education fields. She originally trained in psychotherapy and now has over 30 years’ experience working with organisations and complex systems.

Rosemary is the Director of TA Works, where she works as a writer, trainer and supervisor across the counselling, educational and organisational fields of TA. Her work focuses on the cultures of systems and the inter-cultural dynamics that shape organisational life. She has also spent decades studying Berne’s original organisational writings and leads a three-year advanced Organisational TA training programme.

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They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more at: www.uka4ta.co.uk

We are also supported by the European Association for Transactional Analysis, and our wonderful Patreon supporters.

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts James Longwell and Jr-Earn Lam sit down with Beatrijs Dijkman, a Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst (TSTA-Education) based in the Netherlands.

Beatrijs shares how her work in the education field and her recent exploration of “hospicing modernity” invite us to question what we teach, how we learn, and invites us to question what aspects of TA we need to update or let go of in the times we live in now.

Their conversation ranges from the personal to the systemic, from Beatrijs’ own experience in TA education and exams to broader reflections on privilege, inequality, and how modernity shapes our professional culture.

You’ll hear them explore:

• What hospicing modernity means and why Beatrijs believes TA must question what it keeps and lets go of
• How modern education and qualification systems can unintentionally exclude or privilege certain groups.
• The tension between TA’s humanistic values and the meritocratic structures within its training and exams.
• What inclusion really looks like in TA education today
• An invitation to explore how we might create more equitable spaces for learning.

It’s a thought-provoking and compassionate dialogue that challenges us to look at TA not as a finished canon, but as a living conversation that evolves through questioning, dialogue, and connection.

Guest Information

Since January, Beatrijs has served as co-chair of the PSC (ITAA). Many of her reflections on Transactional Analysis focus on how exams are used and structured within TA pedagogy and training.

Her work is always evolving, with a long-standing involvement in social pedagogy and a deep interest in the role of creativity in learning and development. 

More recently, she has been returning to body and movement work, drawing on her earlier experience as a psychodrama and drama therapist before specialising in TA. 

Website

Connect with Beatrijs on LinkedIn to continue the conversation

Book Mentioned: 

Hospicing Modernity: Facing Humanity’s Wrongs and the Implications for Social Activism by Vanessa Machado de Oliveira

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This podcast is brought to you in partnership with the United Kingdom Association for Transactional Analysis. We’re proud to have the UK Association for Transactional Analysis (UKATA as our Patronage Partner. UKATA is a vibrant professional body committed to supporting the growth and ethical practice of Transactional Analysis in the UK and beyond.

They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more at www.uka4ta.co.uk

We are also supported by the European Association for Transactional Analysis, and our wonderful Patreon supporters.

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts Matt and James sit down with Dasa Szekely. Dasa is a provisional teaching and supervising transactional analyst (PTSTA) based in Frankfurt. With over 20 years of counseling experience, she runs a private practice and conducts training sessions in Transactional Analysis.

This episode explores the nuances of counseling specifically tailored for men, discussing the societal and cultural factors that influence men's emotional literacy and the importance of connection. 

Dasa shares her journey into working with men in group settings, the challenges they face, and the transformative power of counseling in fostering emotional awareness and connection.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How Dasa defines counselling specifically for men – and why it’s different from other approaches.
• The methods she uses to open up emotional availability and reconnection in male clients.
• Her perspective on men who exploit patriarchal dynamics, and the cultural forces behind it.
• Whether men’s groups naturally create safety for emotional sharing – or if that trust has to be built.
• How cultural background shapes the way men deal with conflict and relationships.
• What Dasa herself takes away from conversations with men about masculinity and connection.

Guest Information:

TA Training: https://dasausbildung.de

Counseling: https://dasacoaching.de

Cartoons on Instagram: @dasacoaching

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This podcast is brought to you in partnership with the United Kingdom Association for Transactional Analysis. We’re proud to have the UK Association for Transactional Analysis (UKATA as our Patronage Partner. UKATA is a vibrant professional body committed to supporting the growth and ethical practice of Transactional Analysis in the UK and beyond.

They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more: www.uka4ta.co.uk

We are also supported by the European Association for Transactional Analysis, and our wonderful Patreon supporters.

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In this episode of the Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts John and Matt return with an honest update on the future of the show - why it paused, what’s changed, and what conversations you can expect next.

After a seven-month break, they’re lifting the curtain on what’s been happening behind the scenes and how they’re building a more sustainable rhythm for sharing episodes with the TA community.

This short but important update also includes the announcement of a new sponsorship partnership and a preview of the big topics the podcast will explore in the year ahead.

Tune in to hear more about:

• Why there’s been a pause in publishing new episodes
• What’s changed behind the scenes to keep the podcast going
• The revised publishing rhythm
• The themes and conversations coming this year
• Our new sponsor and what their support means for the future
  
  

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This podcast is brought to you in partnership with the United Kingdom Association for Transactional Analysis. We’re proud to have the UK Association for Transactional Analysis (UKATA as our Patronage Partner. UKATA is a vibrant professional body committed to supporting the growth and ethical practice of Transactional Analysis in the UK and beyond.

They support practitioners, trainees, and the public through professional standards, events, and access to TA education. Learn more: www.uka4ta.co.uk

We are also supported by the European Association for Transactional Analysis, and our wonderful Patreon supporters.

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For five years, the Transactional Analysis Podcast has shared stories, insights, and inspiration - bringing the heart and soul of TA to life. 

What began as a bold idea has become a global platform for learning, connection, and creativity within the TA community. 

In this special episode, hosts Matt, John, and James reflect on five years of the Transactional Analysis Podcast - sharing the milestones, challenges, and moments of transformation that have shaped its success.

We celebrate the partnerships that made it possible, the guests who made TA theory come alive, and the listeners who keep the spirit of TA growing worldwide. 

Plus, we look to the future: making TAP even more accessible, embracing new technology, and inviting you to help sustain this shared resource through our Patreon campaign.

Tune in to Discover:

• How the TA Podcast began as a “side project” and became a professional podcast loved around the world.
• The recent milestone to improve accessibility to the global TA community.
• The real highs and lows of creating the TA Podcast over the past 5 years
• Stories from our guests that have brought TA theory alive
• Learn how you can help the TA Podcast continue to thrive and support the future of the show

Press play and join us as we reflect, celebrate, and look forward!

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In this episode of The Transactional Analysis Podcast, hosts Matt and John welcome Alina Comendant (Provisional Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst in the field of Psychotherapy) and Tatjana Gjurković (Teaching and Supervising Transactional Analyst in the field of Psychotherapy)

Alina, based in the Netherlands, and Tatjana, working in Croatia, are highly experienced play therapists and trainers. They bring unique perspectives on how play therapy and Transactional Analysis can complement each other to support the emotional and psychological well-being of children and adolescents.

Throughout the conversation, we explore:

• How TA theory, with concepts like ego states and scripts, enhances play therapy, helping children express their inner worlds.

• Directive vs. Non-Directive Play Therapy:  the balance between following the child’s lead versus guiding with structured methods.

• Alina and Tatjana’s favourite TA models which they use to foster resilience and autonomy in young clients.

• Why empathy, acceptance, and collaboration with parents help children feel safe and open up in therapy

• The impact of family systems, cultural scripts, and school on a child’s mental health, and why addressing these is vital for sustainable change.

Get in touch with Alina and Tatjana:

Alina Comendant

Website: www.alinacomendant.com
LinkedIn: Alina Comendant
Instagram: @the_heart_of_practice

Tatjana Gjurković

Instagram: @ad_psychotherapy_institute
Website: AD Training Institute

Resources mentioned in the episode:

International Transactional Analysts for Childhood and Adolescence ( from Italy). 

Sponsors:

The International Transactional Analysis Association (ITAA) is an individual membership organisation providing the TA Journal (TAJ) and the monthly Script newsletter with archives of both from the 1970s. 

For more information about the benefits of membership please click on the link below: 

www.itaaworld.org/itaa-membership-benefits 

The European Association for Transactional Analysis (EATA) has 44 member associations with more than 7550 members in 29 European countries. Its purpose is to promote knowledge and research on Transactional Analysis, to develop its theory, to ensure agreed standards of practice, and to promote cooperation in Europe in the field of Transactional Analysis. 

For more information please click on the link below: 

eatanews.org

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